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Re: Global Warming

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:47 pm

I hate snow.

Climate Change And The Blizzard: Nor'easters More Fierce With Global Warming, Scientists Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/0 ... 49587.html

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:58 pm

And, truth is, nor'easters happen.

In fact, Jeff Masters, a climatologist and founder of Weather Underground, noted that the number of intense nor'easters hasn't increased over the last three or four decades. A warmer climate, he explained, can decrease the length of the snowy season, and therefore the time window for nor'easters.
from your article...

Weather is not climate.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:24 pm

I see now why the climate warming skeptics are having a field day.

Scientists have not be stright with us around their modelling errors and the fact the Earth has not followed the predicted increases over the last 10 or more years. We are still warming the Earth. The predictions in the short term have not be realised. That doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bath water.

‘While every new year brings in welcome new data to help us rule out the more extreme scenarios for the future, it would be equally silly to interpret what has happened since the early 2000s as evidence that the warming has stopped.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z2KUwwcZBh
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:40 pm

It means they tried to use scare tactics to introduce global taxes under the guise of environmentalism...they failed yet they still want the taxes and redistribution

Fuck them.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:47 pm

The whole premise of the AGW debate is not about saving the planet, it's about adding an invented ingredient to the basis of the staples of the economic pie.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:54 pm

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Sounds to me like they are still in denial and don't want to acknowledge the truth.
Too busy looking around for excuses or any anomaly that may fit their picture, even if it is short-term or just an anomaly.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:00 am

This was their one shot at trying to change the recipe for the economy hence all the hysteria, science is settled bullshit and act now all we'll all be roooooned within 10 years (said 20-30 years ago)

The leftists were slavering over it because they could see a never ending fund of other peoples money.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Super Nova » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:07 am

I now see your point of view.

I do feel that there was a push to hide the current stats as it would not support the change arguement, taxation, new technology, renewable, emission reduction urgency that was the corner stone of the "what do we do now" debate.

These scientists should have been more honest in their error.

I still content the planet is warming due to human behaviour and we need to do something to stop it. The last 10 years stats is not understood as to why. Waiting for the tempertaure is to be high is too late.

However, bad science or them hiding the truth, no matter what it says by some should not destroy the debate into an extreme position where the science is all bullshit.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:12 am

The science is not fully understood although the premise is valid.

It is still not a reason to promote wholesale change to economies based on said premise and massaged by lies.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:18 am

You can't get two ideologies to agree in a united parliament, there is no way you can get a global agreement on energy use between competing economies. It won't happen and will be rorted

Adaptation and technology is the only way forward. Tech on its own merits to come up with cleaner and cheaper energy is what is required.

Anything else is destine to fail and fail badly making the worst and least deserving of people richer at the expense on society moving forward.
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