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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:29 pm

Climate FAIL: Antarctic Sea Ice Did The Exact Opposite Of What Models Predicted
Anthony Watts / 1 week ago March 3, 2015
By Michael Bastasch, The Daily Caller, 2 March 2015

Climate models can be good tools for predicting future sea ice levels — unless, of course, they are completely wrong. In the case of Antarctica, the climate models were dead wrong, according to a new study by Chinese scientists published in the journal Cryosphere.
Chinese scientists only looked at sea ice projections until 2005. Had they kept going, they would find more than a trend of “slightly increasing” sea ice levels. Last year was the first year on record that Antarctic sea ice coverage rose above 7.72 [million] square miles.
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Re: Global Warming

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:15 pm

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/scient ... id/629605/
Global warming theorists have taken yet another hit with a new study out of Denmark which demonstrates that variations in Earth's orbit are the primary causes of climate change, and have been for at least the last 1.4 billion years.

Scientists from the University of Southern Denmark and the China National Petroleum Corporation investigated marine sediment from the Xiamaling Formation in China and determined that the sediment shows evidence that "the same orbital forcing that caused the climate to change 1.4 billion years ago is the underlying force behind global warming today,"
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:25 pm

Climate claims....
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Re: Global Warming

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:35 pm

one more for da Roach:

NASA: California has about one year of water left
As difficult as it may be to face, the simple fact is that California is running out of water — and the problem started before our current drought. NASA data reveal that total water storage in California has been in steady decline since at least 2002, when satellite-based monitoring began, although groundwater depletion has been going on since the early 20th century.

Right now the state has only about one year of water supply left in its reservoirs, and our strategic backup supply, groundwater, is rapidly disappearing. California has no contingency plan for a persistent drought like this one (let alone a 20-plus-year mega-drought), except, apparently, staying in emergency mode and praying for rain.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:53 pm

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Yep and according to Tim Flannery, yet another noted alarmist, we were to never have full dams ever again a few years back.... the next year they were overflowing.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:54 pm

ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT 2/25/2015 @ 10:36AM 45,341 views
Record Cold And Snow Destroy Global Warming Claims

Yet another bitterly cold, snowy winter is destroying alarmist global warming claims, proving once again that over-the-top global warming predictions are proving no more scientifically credible than snake oil.
This morning, stunning photos show New England lobster boats frozen in port, looking like they are stranded deep within the Arctic Circle. The boats have been frozen in place for weeks, which would be remarkable enough if this were the middle of January. However, the calendar is about to turn to March.

Connecticut is experiencing its coldest February in recorded history. So is Michigan. So is Toronto. Cleveland and Chicago are experiencing their second coldest February in recorded history. Frigid and record cold temperatures are being set from Key West to International Falls. At the same time, blizzard after blizzard is burying much of the nation with record winter snow totals, with winter snowfall records beings set from Boston to Denver.

Global warming activists are in full-throttle damage control, desperately claiming global warming causes record snow and cold.

The Center for American Progress claimed, “climate change may have affected the [Boston] snowstorm — may have made it more likely, may have made it worse than it would have been without so much greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.”

National Geographic published an article titled, “Blizzard of Nor’easters No Surprise, Thanks to Climate Change.”

“How global warming can worsen snowfalls,” read a Boston Globe headline.

Global warming alarmists’ own prior global warming claims, however, indict their current claims.

The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) stated very clearly, “Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms.” Well, winters are clearly not becoming milder or bereft of heavy snowstorms.

Many global warming activists are still attempting to defend the discredited IPCC prediction, claiming a single winter does not invalidate a long-term trend. As the Union of Concerned Scientists claimed, “Winters have generally been warming faster than other seasons in the United States and recent research indicates that climate change” is causing it. The problem with such an assertion is that last winter was exceptionally cold and snowy, too. And winters nationwide have been getting colder for the past 20 years. Objective scientific data show winters have been getting colder and colder throughout the United States for the past two decades. When global warming alarmists claim winters will become warmer and free of snow, yet their predictions are proven false for 20 years in a row, at some point logical people come to realize that global warming alarmists are selling snake oil.

It is not just the winter, either. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration data show the United States has been cooling for the past decade. Nor is it just the United States defying alarmist predictions. Global temperature data show no global warming since the late 1990s and very little global warming for the past 45 years.

Another global warming activist tactic is to argue that global warming actually causes more snow. Of course, this is exactly the opposite of what they used to claim, as shown in the IPCC prediction. Moreover, real-world scientific data prove their new claims false. Global warming activists argue that warmer air can hold more moisture, so winter snow storms that used to bring 12 inches of snow now bring 14 inches of snow. The problem with this new assertion is – as documented above – winter temperatures are substantially colder now than they used to be. Global warming activists cannot claim recent record snowfalls are caused by warmer winters when winters are in fact much colder than they used to be.

The most meaningful lesson from the unusually cold and snowy recent winters is that global warming is so minor as to be barely noticeable. When temperatures rise merely a fraction of one degree, the polar ice caps won’t melt, the oceanic conveyor belt will not shut down, alligators will not take up residence in Montana, cats will not start living with dogs, and winters will not suddenly disappear. We will still have very cold and snowy winters. We will still have hot summers. Your grandfather will still claim that to make it to school each day he walked barefoot through the snow, uphill each way.

Global warming alarmists will still try to sell their snake oil, hoping you will forget that tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts, floods, snow, and heat waves all really did occur prior to 1988. Most of these events actually occurred more frequently in decades past. And global warming activists will try to induce you to forget their prior snake-oil predictions, like the warm and snow-free predictions issued by the IPCC. They claim every weather and climate event – whether warmth or cold, rain or shine – is caused by global warming. Global warming is the new snake oil that soulless hucksters on the Western frontier claimed applied to every malady a person could experience.

In the classic movie The Outlaw Josey Wales, a carpet-bagging snake oil salesman claimed his product cures cramps, wounds, hangovers, and “just about everything.” Clint Eastwood, playing Josey Wales, then spit a mouthful of dark brown tobacco juice on the snake oil salesman’s bright white jacket and asked, “How is it with stains?”

This makes one think of failed and all-encompassing global warming predictions. Heck, it makes one think of the entire alarmist global warming movement – how is it with stains?
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed May 20, 2015 3:18 pm

First, Global warming denialists denied the existence of GW outright.
As the case for GW became ever more obvious, the energy industry hired scientists to debunk it. The scientists went off checked the research/data ect and came back saying "We can't debunk it because it's real". The oil industry accepted GW as genuine, but the coal industry was determined to fight on.
The coal industry, namely Peabody Coal hired PR spin doctors to discredit the science, and it was those spin doctors who coined the phrase Climate Change, because it sounded less threatening than Global Warming.
Then the coal industry hired psuedo-scientists with no credibility to lose to cloud public perception with bogus scenarios as responsible for GW/CC.
So since then we've had crackpot theories like 'the sun did it', 'Milankovic cycles are responsible' and a plethora of other psuedo-scientific fairytales every year or so which are debunked and then recycled again despite prior debunking.

Anyway, no matter how many moonbat theories or continued denying of GW and its causes both present and in Earth history, the phenomena continues unabated.

Now, as ice on land decreases and moves into the oceans as an ever increasing pace, we have a rapid expansion of sea ice.

So the question to ask now is, when the sea ice melts and combines with more land based ice thaws, how far and how rapid will the oceans rise?

Wouldn't it be funny if Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth was more conservative than reality and the GW denialists' couldn't get insurance?

Antarctic bases battle record ice
http://theaustralian.newspaperdirect.co ... iewer.aspx
Record Antarctic sea ice is forcing scientists to consider relocating research bases as they struggle to cope.

Satellite observations show a new daily record being set for Antarctic sea ice every day for the past two weeks. Annual records have also been broken every year for the past three years.

Rob Wooding, general manager of the Australian Antarctic Division’s Operations Branch, said expanding sea ice was now causing serious problems.

Last year, fuel supplies were flown to Australia’s Mawson base by helicopter because the harbour had failed to clear. Dr Wooding said the situation was “unsustainable”.

He said it was possible for the Aurora Australis icebreaker to break through a certain amount of sea ice to enter the harbour, and the planned capability of a replacement icebreaker would increase the ability to do this. But conditions experienced last year of thick sea ice, with snow cover, extending out 40km to 50km could not regularly be navigated by any Antarctic resupply vessel.

“If we were to face such a situation at Mawson for three or four successive seasons, it would be unlikely that we could continue to resupply the station under the current operating model,” he said. “Unless we could find an alternative resupply strategy, questions would arise as to the ongoing viability of the station.”

French scientists have already been forced to resupply their bases over ice and a number of radical solutions are being considered, including bigger icebreakers, air drops and hovercraft.
The world’s leading Antarctic supply teams and scientists are meeting in Hobart this week to discuss plans in light of the strong trend in growing Antarctic sea ice extent.

Dr Wooding said the growing sea ice presented many logistical problems.

Seasonal growth in Antarctic sea ice is now under way and is expected to peak at another record level in September. Scientists say the increases in sea ice mask much larger regional changes in sea ice distribution, as well as changes in the physical properties of the ice itself. Professor Tony Worby, chief executive of the Climate and Ecosystems Co-operative Research Centre, said expanding Antarctic sea ice had not been expected initially with climate change, but was now better understood.

While the overall Antarctic ice mass was reducing, sea ice was expanding due largely to changed wind patterns driven by ozone depletion, greenhouse gas accumulation in the atmosphere and natural variability. Recent research had also shown the ice is thicker than previously thought.

“Sea ice is one of the most difficult to get right in numerical models,” Professor Worby said.

He said sea ice expansion had been in “very significant contrast to ice extent in the Arctic”.


One reason for the difference, he said, was Arctic sea ice was land locked but Antarctic sea ice was surrounded by ocean and free to expand as wind patterns changed.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by boxy » Wed May 20, 2015 11:36 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:Wouldn't it be funny if Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth was more conservative than reality and the GW denialists' couldn't get insurance?
Na, not funny at all. Either we're wrong, or we're fucked.

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as a moral issue for political reasons.
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