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[mellie]

Trumps onto them, and is the first President of our time who has the balls to stand up against this.

We need to support him, not do what's right or politically comfortable for Israel or it's Frankenstein Hamas.

It's why they tried to kill him.

[mellie]

Israel beat Europe into submission, but they won't the US, or her allies without a good fight.
Had Democrats got back in, the genocide and displaced refugees requiring shelter would have continued.

Trumps basically given Israel an altematum, either finish what you started, properly, and without leaving the civilised world to pick-up the bill, or STOP!

[mellie]

There's good and evil in all humanity, regardless of ideology they claim to hale from.

All we can do is live good decent lives ourselves, call out evil when we see it, and do our best not to be caught up in it's process. This is to say, excuse it, or condone it.

What began as what on the surface appeared to be an organised Hamas terrorist attack on Israel's children, enjoying a music festival, ended up resulting in organised genocide, mostly women and children interestingly enough.

Perhaps Israel know women and children are useless as slaves, so when the time comes whereby they need to be seen as taking a certain amount of those Palestinian displaced people, back into Gaza, they want the population to be controlled, given their propensity to breed rampantly, regardless of financial instability, living in a 1 bedroom squat etc.

Like Africans, when you have nothing else left, I guess what else is left to do but ****?

So in murdering their women and children, they're trully breaking them, ie, where's their "Allah" now?

War isn't only physical, there's always a psychological, ideological, sociological, etc component to it also.

How can Israel cry holocaust now that they've used the security and wealth of being bestowed their mother nation "Israel" as a means to commit inhumane acts and atrocities upon thy neighbour themselves, ie genocide?

Kinda makes reading holocaust survivors stories feel .... well different now I guess.

And I've read many of them.

The only books left on the shelves in big W yesterday seemed to be holocaust survival novels, just a coincidence?



Gassing mass numbers of humans in chambers which they believed to be shower blocks -vrs- bombing / open firing on vehicles filled with women and children within minutes of a ceasefire, limbs flying in all directions.

They say all is fair in love and war, but there's nothing fair or loving about any war, and it's time we humans evolved past these atrocities and stopped.

I'm actually very disappointed in Israel, I think every nation has a duty to shield and protect it's citizens, but open-firing on cars full of women and children is just savagery, it's obvious to me that Israel doesn't see Palestinians as being human, just vermin that needs eradication. The same as they claimed the Nazi regime saw Jews as back in WW2. Vermin!



Should Western powers step in and provide aggressors with military support and weapons when it's clear, what began as initial retaliation and self defence has evolved into something more sinister....Extermination?

If Jews cannot live peacefully alongside radical Islamic militants, wouldn't it be better for them to just disperse themselves within Western allies nations, as Jews and Christians generally get along fine these days?

No, because they want to stay where the world's most lucrative resources are, they know that in the long run it will be more profitable.
Israel certainly has a right to exist with their historical and ideological ties to their land, Israel , but this doesn't give them an open licence to commit genocide upon the world stage and get away with it.

There are consequences for all actions. Good/bad.

Holocaust sympathisers are feeling a little less sympathetic, the next western sympath -genre for literature will be in favour of Gaza survivors. It's already started.

People are boycotting pro-Israel or even holocaust related literature because they are no longer seen to be the innocent victims of genocide, rather are now deemed as being the perpetrators of the very same atrocities themselves, perhaps even worse.

It's state funded genocide whichever way you look at it, regardless of whether or not we the west stand to advantage from it or not.

We need to completely withdraw or intervene.

Cant be providing military support and complaining about it at the same time.

It's blatant hypocrisy!

Either we're in or out, at present we are standing on the border, with one leg sympathetically leaning towards Palestinians, ( not Hamas) and the other leg in Israel, feeling compelled to stand by Israel for ideological and geopolitical economic reasons.

I feel Trump will be able to end it, one way or the other, because it's just come to a point wherby it's blatant genocide in the eyes of most feeling and sane humans.

[mellie]

Our sense of humanity is at stake, and for me, this is more important than our global economies status or a looming economic crisis some economists believe is inevitable following a Gaza- holocaust.

Will the west pick up the bill again this time?

Shouldn't retaliation be in equal and fair measures in accordance with what's both necessary and humane in a 2025 world?

Let's imagine Israel had have taken a completely different approach, a more "protective " stance. Sure, hunt down hamas, though with a degree of civilised decorum and humanity, ensure security and intelligence measures were being utilised ( this opposed to failing to protect it's own kids at a festival) and utilising their military prowess to engage in civilised negotiations with their enemy's, hamas etc.( Note- It's not just Palestinians who want Israel out of the ME) This would have taken longer and resulted in Israel having to free terrorist captives, and negotiate, true, but wouldn't it have been better in the long run than blatant genocide?

Jews ( scribed ) and still claim to be G-ds chosen people, however is the Israeli government acting in accordance with what is stated in the Torah and the Old Testament?
Are they conducting business lawfully?
Or is slaughtering Goyim en mass still ok?
And if so, will we be ,"off-limits", despite economic ties?
Will Israel exterminate anything that threatens their way of life?
Their government is behaving more sicarii than civilised.

G-d didn't choose this, the enemy persuaded Eve, ( perhaps Adam this time) to take a bite of the old apple, in the name of Greed and Power in the middle east.
G-d considers us all equal, we are all his beloved children unless we do something which separates ourselves from His protection

Jews, as hot blooded Arabs, still, despite their promise to calm down, evolve, and be a civilised entity within the ME for the benefit of themselves and their Western allies.
They have embarrassed us!


G-d gave man free will, however had hoped man would harness this more wisely, and not orchestrate pure evil with it.
What was that about not hurting a hair on any child's head again?

This is the work of the enemy enticing weak man in the name of Greed, nothing more. Israel's overtly nationalistic government is claiming to be protective, however what it's doing is very far from protective, because the genuinely Jewish citizens of Israel will ultimately pay the price for this atrocity, anti-semetism is AGAIN on the global rise, people are boycotting openly Zionist businesses and making their anti-semetic attitudes felt within the community.....towards Jews who don't even support their governments management of the instigating hamas terrorist attack, it's a ripple effect, like a tidalwave, and could result in the eventual fall of Israel without the support of the international community.
The International Community have had enough!


Resources are running out perhaps, but there's other opportunities to develop new resources, technologies assuming they truly are clever enough and aren't still some pre- evolved pack of desert monkeys with slingshots?

I'd like to see them call a ceasefire and actually mean it.
Ok, if a few Palestinian savages throw a condom-bom over the border or float it down with the tide, so what, it's still not an excuse for genocide. Especially when the world knows Israel has some of the best military defence capabilities in the world.
If not, THE best defence.

[mellie]

Furthermore, the above isn't consistent with Australia's peaceful and give anybody a go culture. Hence the good Jewish folk here in Australia are feeling the ripple effect, all the way from Israel.

They're likely feeling embarrassed and ashamed about what's transpiring in the Middle East too.

Along with feeling that they're being judged.

My parents live in a retirement village where there's a number of Jews, just a handful, and they've more or less been keeping to themselves and not mingling with residents at events the same way they did before this war began.

So even they're feeling judged, and are concerned about what others think of them which isn't good.

It's unfair, but people can be intrusive and ask stupid questions like " Oh, you're Jewish, what do you think about what's happening in Gazza?" Etc) Especially those who gossip and make it their business to know everybody else's.

Most Australian Jews feel terrible about what's happening in Israel, just wish it would stop, along with most other Australians.

Myself, I wouldn't be so tactless to even mention it.
I would treat them how I did before all this evil started.

With respect.

[mellie]

I reckon 80 to 90 percent of Jews in Israel just want it to stop.

But like our current government, it's not listening either.

[tllwd]

There is no genocide in Gaza.
It can be proven by reasoning along lines used by Israel haters who posit that Arabs can not be antisemitic because they are Semites themselves.
Arabs claim to have same ancestry as Jews so Jews can not genocide own genes.

etc., etc., etc., ...

[mellie]

There is no genocide in Gaza.
It can be proven by reasoning along lines used by Israel haters who posit that Arabs can not be antisemitic because they are Semites themselves.
Arabs claim to have same ancestry as Jews so Jews can not genocide own genes.

etc., etc., etc., ...

Look, Tllwd, the reasoning can be demonstrated by the fact most of us were pro- retaliation until the genocide of women and children along with hospitals, journalists, aid workers etc

This is where the reasoning is.

It's simple maths......

Death toll stands at 48,237 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.

The bit that really sickened me was that Israel bombed a car returning home to Gazza with a father and his 4 children.
Mum was going in another vehicle because there wasn't enough room in the car. This occured just minute's to the agreed ceasefire between both parties. She lost the father of her children and 2 kids. The remaining two are still fighting for their lives in hospital. She believed that they had come so far, had made it to the end of the war with her family ...until Israeli soldiers opened fire indiscriminately upon them. No apologies , No rationale.

And Tllwd, most of us have Semitic ancestory, however this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact remaining that this isn't warfare, it's turned into genocide.

[tllwd]

Look, Tllwd, the reasoning can be demonstrated by the fact most of us were pro- retaliation until the genocide of women and children along with hospitals, journalists, aid workers etc

This is where the reasoning is.

It's simple maths......

Death toll stands at 48,237 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.

That is not genocide but a war, which is hell.
Arabs started the war so they got the hell and to the hell they will go.

[mellie]

Absolutely, there's blood on hamas' hands, and the Palestinian people and government who support them, however there's definitely an inballace of power and casualties that's at play here.

It's one thing to retaliate, it's another thing again to do so without regard or restraint when it comes to innocent civilians, especially children.

Uncivilised. All of them are desert monkeys, and most of the world is looking on with horror and despair.

I don't know anyone who thinks Israel's response was ballanced or fair.