The Death Penalty should be reintroduced.

[billy the kid]

This is the very reason why I refuse to debate the resident moron.
He continually makes sweeping statements such as this and then refuses
point blank to justify them in any way shape or form when challenged.
The man is a fkn moron and simply antagonizes everyone with his stupid,
sweeping unsubstantiated condescending statements.
And if he is challenged he will make some ridiculous sanctimonious
statement like tsk tsk...hhmmm...run along and play in the mud
with all the other kiddies....
He has absolutely no credibility on this forum and Im stuffed if I know
why he wastes his time as he is continually being dumped on by Bogan and everyone
else....
He must have very little to do in his pathetic life to spend so much time
being ridiculed so often by so many people...

[Nom De Plume]

This is the very reason why I refuse to debate the resident moron.
He continually makes sweeping statements such as this and then refuses
point blank to justify them in any way shape or form when challenged.
The man is a fkn moron and simply antagonizes everyone with his stupid,
sweeping unsubstantiated condescending statements.
And if he is challenged he will make some ridiculous sanctimonious
statement like tsk tsk...hhmmm...run along and play in the mud
with all the other kiddies....
He has absolutely no credibility on this forum and Im stuffed if I know
why he wastes his time as he is continually being dumped on by Bogan and everyone
else....
He must have very little to do in his pathetic life to spend so much time
being ridiculed so often by so many people...

I think that you are absolutely correct and, I have also wondered what motivates him.

[brian ross]

I think that you are absolutely correct and, I have also wondered what motivates him.

Nom, what motivates me is a belief in the "fair go". I am 100% Australian. I was raised here. I was educated here. I served in the Australian Army. People are entitled to a "fair go". Even John Howard had a Government policy predicated on that (when in reality what he meant was a "fair go" for White fellas, not Indigenous Australians, Refugees, Asylum Seekers, unemployed, poor, etc.).

I find the idea of the Death Penalty reprehensible. People appear to forget why Australia was settled by the English because they found the Death Penalty a failure. It had not deterred crime. It had just meant a lot of dead people who's only crime was a little bit of petty theft. The English decided to transport criminals to Australia and dump them here. We created a marvellous country out of that. Yet far too many forget that.

The same old, tired arguments are always put forward - it deters crime, it saves money, it removes the condemned from society, etc., etc. As I have pointed out, none of those are true (except the removal one). What it does is costs money, it fails to deter crime and the innocent are usually the ones who end up being executed. Australian society shunned the Death Penalty because it realised just how abhorrent it was. It decided they didn't want the blood of anybody on their hands simply because some people want to satisfy their bloodlust and a desire for revenge.

[Bobby]

I think that you are absolutely correct and, I have also wondered what motivates him.

Nom, what motivates me is a belief in the "fair go". I am 100% Australian. I was raised here. I was educated here. I served in the Australian Army. People are entitled to a "fair go". Even John Howard had a Government policy predicated on that (when in reality what he meant was a "fair go" for White fellas, not Indigenous Australians, Refugees, Asylum Seekers, unemployed, poor, etc.).

I find the idea of the Death Penalty reprehensible. People appear to forget why Australia was settled by the English because they found the Death Penalty a failure. It had not deterred crime. It had just meant a lot of dead people who's only crime was a little bit of petty theft. The English decided to transport criminals to Australia and dump them here. We created a marvellous country out of that. Yet far too many forget that.

The same old, tired arguments are always put forward - it deters crime, it saves money, it removes the condemned from society, etc., etc. As I have pointed out, none of those are true (except the removal one). What it does is costs money, it fails to deter crime and the innocent are usually the ones who end up being executed. Australian society shunned the Death Penalty because it realised just how abhorrent it was. It decided they didn't want the blood of anybody on their hands simply because some people want to satisfy their bloodlust and a desire for revenge.

Yet Gargasoulas took the lives of many innocent people & left countless others maimed for life.
Justice demands that he be hanged in front of the steps of parliament.

[brian ross]

Yet Gargasoulas took the lives of many innocent people & left countless others maimed for life.
Justice demands that he be hanged in front of the steps of parliament.

Justice? The taking of a life for a life, hey, Bobby? What you want is revenge, not justice. Are you prepared to erect the gallows, knot the rope around his neck and pull the lever yourself?

[Black Orchid]

As I have pointed out, none of those are true (except the removal one).

You have pointed nothing out. You have pontificated your opinion by way of making sweeping unjustified and unverifiable statements.

What it does is costs money, it fails to deter crime and the innocent are usually the ones who end up being executed.

Although some innocents have been put to death in the past to say that it is "usually the innocent who are executed" is just another ridiculous assertion, on your part, and not based on fact.

[brian ross]

As I have pointed out, none of those are true (except the removal one).

You have pointed nothing out. You have pontificated your opinion by way of making sweeping unjustified and unverifiable statements.

What it does is costs money, it fails to deter crime and the innocent are usually the ones who end up being executed.

Although some innocents have been put to death in the past to say that it is "usually the innocent who are executed" is just another ridiculous assertion, on your part, and not based on fact.

[The Reboot]

Didn't you know, that murderers, rapists and pedophiles are all part of the oppression olympics? Double points if they are black and Islamic, cause you know... gotta have culture!

People like Brian think they are the epitome of morality if they give a "fair go" to scumbags.. but what they fail to do is look at the bigger picture.

If a bunch of known reoffenders were put on death row, then that lessens the chance of them reoffending.. which saves innocent lives in the long run. I mean, it isn't rocket science. Do the math.

But no, we'd rather pump more tax dollars into treating them like poor misunderstood victims. Anti-libido meds for pedophiles and rapists, continued food and resources wasted on murderers in prisons, court cases that drag on for months on end..

I wonder if "Bwiny" would still believe in a "fair go" if it was his family that suffered at the hands of the above.

[The Reboot]

As I have pointed out, none of those are true (except the removal one).

You have pointed nothing out. You have pontificated your opinion by way of making sweeping unjustified and unverifiable statements.

What it does is costs money, it fails to deter crime and the innocent are usually the ones who end up being executed.

Although some innocents have been put to death in the past to say that it is "usually the innocent who are executed" is just another ridiculous assertion, on your part, and not based on fact.

Where's your evidence, dickhead? What, you think by parroting Billy Shorten's slogan for last election (the one where he failed "epically", btw) that gives you a free pass? If she has to back up her claims, then so do you.

[Bobby]

Yet Gargasoulas took the lives of many innocent people & left countless others maimed for life.
Justice demands that he be hanged in front of the steps of parliament.

Justice? The taking of a life for a life, hey, Bobby? What you want is revenge, not justice. Are you prepared to erect the gallows, knot the rope around his neck and pull the lever yourself?

dear Brian,
If my country called upon me to do my duty then yes I would.
So would Hammer and Valkie.
There are some real men on these forums.