Shut-up! Greens

[Rorschach]

Why don't we make it simple for you here are some yes or no questions. Are you capable of answering yes or no?
If this policy was around seventy years ago would it have been deemed antisemitic ?
Would you use this policy on white Christians if they were fleeing persecution in their own countries?
Yes or no?

I gather that means YOU still DON"T GET IT.

NO and YES...

The policy is used in regards to people coming ILLEGALLY skippy. That is they use criminal means to gain access to Australia. Many doing so are NOT GENUINE REFUGEES.

It does not specify discrimination to any particular religion or race.

So called Asylum Seekers are processed whether they are blue black or brindle.

The Greens and the rest of the brainless LW PC bed-wetting bleeding-heart brigade led by the moronic likes of Hanson-Dumb just don't get it. Do we need to add you to that cohort Skippy?

[Rorschach]

If this policy was around seventy years ago would it have been deemed antisemitic ?

We need to learn from our mistakes AND the mistakes of others ie Europe. Do we really want to follow in their footsteps with our closest neighbour being Indonesia?

No, I don't think we should. I've said I don't like Islam culture and would prefer not to have it here.
My point is we as a country and I as an individual are biased and if these refugees were white Christians fleeing South Africa, as an example, we would treat them differently.

I can understand why you would take that stance Skippy doesn't make you racist, just pragmatic since the people you deem to admit would assimilate a lot better than those who choose not to assimilate, but then The Greens don't want them to assimilate because they support Multiculti.
The Greens are lunatics...

[Black Orchid]

IN WHICH world does Greens leader Senator Richard Di Natale live? His plan to decriminalise all illicit drugs reeks of juvenile university politics, cloistered from reality by sandstone
and cheap Thursday night drinks.

It does not hold true in the real world. The world where Australia holds the unsavoury distinction of having one of the highest rates of illicit drug use per capita in the world. We take more ecstasy than anyone else and the number of ice addicts has doubled in eight years. A staggering 40 per cent of Australians have used illicit drugs from opioids to heroin to cocaine.

In his series on ice use in Australia, News Corp Australia journalist Paul Toohey last year reported: “Despite some towns being branded “the Ice Capital” of Australia, no single place deserves the title. Ice is everywhere.”

The extent of illicit drug use is a national shame and a tragedy that touches too many Australians.

Drug use puts pressure on our emergency services who battle every day and night in the emergency wards and streets of Australia.

We are at a loss to fathom why Senator Di Natale and his collaborator, Queensland senator Larissa Waters, are touting such a premise when every day families across Australia are battling the scourge of drugs.

Senator Di Natale, a general practitioner by trade, wants the money spent by police and the criminal justice system on tracking and convicting drug users to be used for rehabilitation.

His justification is that criminal penalties stop drug addicts from seeking treatment and that a similar program in Portugal led to a reported drop in drug use and drug-induced deaths. The Portuguese program did not reduce illicit drug use in that country; after 15 years the rate remained flat.

Senator Di Natale must remember as he tours the country preaching his toleration of drugs sermon that drugs are illegal because they are dangerous.

That is what Drug Free Australia’s Jo Baxter warns. And Drug Arm also cautions that there is no system established in Australia which would support the fallout from legalisation.

And for the Greens to be so out of touch that they also called for drug users to be able to test party pills is outrageous. We look forward to the federal parliamentary drug summit early next month and plead with the participants to present sagacious proposals to battle this affliction on our community.

The message the Greens are sending about illicit drugs is almost as unsafe as taking the drugs themselves. It ultimately provides no security in their policies to parents and voters. Senator, we invite you to take a look outside your glass bubble into the real world and present the electorate with a sensible plan on attacking illicit drug use in Australia.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opin ... 024a5564cc

Talk about nutters!

[skippy]

Prohibition has never worked. Kids WILL and do take drugs at least if they are regulated the kids have half a chance of surviving. As it is now they are playing Russian roulette every time they drop an ekkie at a party.
It's akin to drinking moonshine and not knowing the alcohol content.

[Super Nova]

Prohibition has never worked. Kids WILL and do take drugs at least if they are regulated the kids have half a chance of surviving. As it is now they are playing Russian roulette every time they drop an ekkie at a party.
It's akin to drinking moonshine and not knowing the alcohol content.

Or what type of alcohol (Methanol) which I had a few classes of in Jakarta.... man... that can kill you. headache for 24 hours after 2 drinks.

[skippy]

Prohibition has never worked. Kids WILL and do take drugs at least if they are regulated the kids have half a chance of surviving. As it is now they are playing Russian roulette every time they drop an ekkie at a party.
It's akin to drinking moonshine and not knowing the alcohol content.

Or what type of alcohol (Methanol) which I had a few classes of in Jakarta.... man... that can kill you. headache for 24 hours after 2 drinks.

That's my point. The Greens policy is about harm minimisation.
To put it simply those against a harm minimisation policy need to ask themself.. Would you prefer your kid to go out and drink alcohol that is labeled with its strength or would you be happy for them to drink a backyard brew of moonshine with no known alcohol content?
Because it's exactly the same with drugs. If they are regulated and the strength is known a responsible judgement can be made if not its Russian roulette with your kids life. This " just say no" is bullshit in the real world. I'm advocating for kids to survive their drug experience.

[Rorschach]

Prohibition has never worked. Kids WILL and do take drugs at least if they are regulated the kids have half a chance of surviving. As it is now they are playing Russian roulette every time they drop an ekkie at a party.
It's akin to drinking moonshine and not knowing the alcohol content.

You think most kids are not well brought up?

Whose fault is that then.

[Rorschach]

I suppose the Russian Roulette analogy works Skip... but how many kids would put a gun to their head and pull the trigger just for fun?

I'd like to think not many... and those that would... we could do without anyway.


Personally I agree we should be going after the dealers.
I agree that drug use should be looked at in long term users as a health problem.
I don't agree with decriminalization though.
But I think the penalties should be centred around rehabilitation for users and a very long time in gaol for suppliers.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Keeping uninvited vermin detained offshore is probably more humane and certainly more expensive than my preferred option, which is to sink the boats, video record the event, and send copies of the footage back to their country of origin.

With the exception of Muslims I don't particularly care what race, colour or where someone comes from, to me it's the attitude that counts. But if I were dictator, there would be no immigration into this country by anyone from anywhere.
The more people brought in, the more competition for housing, road use, parking spots, hospital beds ect ect ect, and in turn the more aggressive we become as a population. Fact is immigration is destroying our once easy going nature and life style.

Want Mad Max to become reality? .. Just keep bringing in more people.

[skippy]

Prohibition has never worked. Kids WILL and do take drugs at least if they are regulated the kids have half a chance of surviving. As it is now they are playing Russian roulette every time they drop an ekkie at a party.
It's akin to drinking moonshine and not knowing the alcohol content.

You think most kids are not well brought up?

Whose fault is that then.

I don't think it has anything to do with how good the parenting was. Kids and in fact many older people do drugs, it's a fact.