Poor Muzzies are being picked on

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How quickly you forget that Fraser brought the Lebanese Muslims here - not the Greens. Most of those rioting would be first generation Arabic Australians. Their families have probably got dual citizenship as well - courtesy of Howard.

I think its interesting what you think mantra.

Not right but interesting.

Of course the current Greens support bigger immigration and Multiculturalism which gives us the problem we are discussing. So do both the major parties, So you can't just single out the Liberals because of your political bias. Oh and BTW I take offence at you coming on with that RW crap about me since I am not RW. If you cant work it out ask Lisa she worked it out very quickly. IQS and I would disagree about quite a bit as did DT and I.

As for dual citizenship I know both major parties supported it. In fact I think only ON was against it. But being a Green voter you must know what the Greens policy was/is. Personally I think they supported it, but I'm not sure.

Yes we can blame Fraser for most of the Tribal Lebanese Muslims coming here and being allowed here. IQS is right about Fraser he also gave us Multiculturalism. I note that Sarah Hansen-Young Christine Milne et al are only to happy to have many more Muslims come here. They also support Multiculturalism. Why is it you vote for them again?

Greens policy states...

the diversity of Australians’ cultural backgrounds greatly enriches our society and is to be celebrated.

all Australians to have equal opportunity of representation and inclusion in local, state and federal government regardless of culture, ethnicity or dual citizenship.

ensure wide and inclusive consultation that respects cultural and linguistic diversity in devising policy and implementing programs.

oppose any “Australian values” tests as a prerequisite for citizenship or entry to the country.

restore an independent office of multicultural affairs within the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.

amendment of section 44 of the Constitution to allow Australian citizens with dual nationality to stand for election to Federal Parliament;

If you don't know what they stand for why vote for them?

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amendment of section 44 of the Constitution to allow Australian citizens with dual nationality to stand for election to Federal Parliament;

If you don't know what they stand for why vote for them?

That is a measure they would take to ensure transparency in government I assume. At the moment we have dozens of mp's including Gillard and Abbott who were born overseas. We don't know how many of these politicians hold dual citizenship because apparently they don't have to declare it.

Oh and BTW I take offence at you coming on with that RW crap about me since I am not RW. If you cant work it out ask Lisa she worked it out very quickly. IQS and I would disagree about quite a bit as did DT and I.

Yes of course - you sit on the fence.

I don't recall you ever denigrating the Coalition to the extent you do to the Greens and Labor, so it's easy to assume you lean right by more than a few degrees.

However I do recall Lisa saying how wonderful RW's are and in the next breath posting that she hated them with a vengeance. Weird. Was she talking about you? What did you do to her?

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That is a measure they would take to ensure transparency in government I assume. At the moment we have dozens of mp's including Gillard and Abbott who were born overseas. We don't know how many of these politicians hold dual citizenship because apparently they don't have to declare it.

No member of parliament is allowed to hold dual citizenship.
The Greens want that changed. That is what the amendment is for, to change the current rule.

Yes of course - you sit on the fence.

have you ever known me to sit on the fence mantra?

I don't recall you ever denigrating the Coalition to the extent you do to the Greens and Labor, so it's easy to assume you lean right by more than a few degrees.

Never agreed with Workchoices.
Never agreed with going to Iraq.
Disagree with getting rid of Unions.
I often critcised Howard for his lack of vision and concentration on the economy at the expense of infrastructure.
I didn't agree with selling off the Snowy.
Disagree with selling off the farm.
Urged the redevelopment of the manufacturing sector.
Disagree with multiculturalism
*Disagreed with the Republic.
*Disagree with changing the flag (unless its to mine)
* some members of both major parties and the Greens support these

Etc, etc, etc... I am as I have always stated... A LW Conservative... I agree and disagree with policies on both sides of the political divide like ant SANE person would.

You just assume that because I've had to contradict all the hate mongering based on crap coming from people like you and others from the Progressive Left over the years.

However I do recall Lisa saying how wonderful RW's are and in the next breath posting that she hated them with a vengeance. Weird. Was she talking about you? What did you do to her?

She wasn't commenting on me it was in a completely different topic and she did say she used to think that and was now revising her thoughts on the subject, due to abuse from the RW. Nothing to do with me.

On me she said something like... I thought you were just a useless lazy left winger, but now I'll have to change my view. You see she recognised right away I wasn't a Right Winger. Unlike some where it has taken years and they still don't get it even when told countless times. Why do you think DT went off his head at me, like a moron, on Liberty? Not a Right Winger.

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So mantra, what do you think of the behaviour of those poor Muzzies in Sydney yesterday?

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So mantra, what do you think of the behaviour of those poor Muzzies in Sydney yesterday?

I found them pathetic. They were a bunch of displaced religious nuts, but let's face it - if they had been aborigines heckling outside parliament house, "hippies" heckling the mining companies, RW groupies heckling Gillard over the carbon tax, waterfront workers heckling Howard over their union rights - they would ultimately be condemned by large pockets of Australians.

The difference is many of us find Islam repulsive because most devotees appear to have bad English together with a dark sinister appearance not enhanced by their beards and burqas. They also hate us. The extremist Muslims don't fit into our society - but as you said before, both major parties are responsible for them being here so STOP BLAMING THE GREENS.

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I'm sorry... Stop blaming the Greens?

Anyone would think I just blame the Greens.

I believe I blamed both major parties and the Greens. Didn't I?
Why shouldn't the Greens also be blamed?

They are a pro-immigration, pro-multiculturalism, pro UN, open borders party are they not?

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Found it mantra...

I assumed you were a typical boring Leftie. Much respect for being anything but that.

ta daaaaa....

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After the RIOT we are getting comments such as this.

VIOLENT DEMONSTRATION IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY CALLS FOR A RE-THINK OF
IMMIGRATION POLLICY

The riot in the city of Sydney on Saturday demonstrate the
intolerance of muslims in general compared to the adherents of other
religions. As an example - one lifetime wouldn’t be enough to watch
the films on youtube that denigrate Judaism and the Jews, but the
Jews don’t go out and riot. Kevin “the shredder” Rudd once made
insulting remarks about the Exclusive Bretheren. The Exclusive
Bretheren didn’t retaliate by starting a riot – it probably just made
them increase their donations to the Liberal Party. The homosexual
mardi gras often contains floats that denigrate Roman Catholicism.
The Catholics don’ t go out and start riots in protest. A so-called
comedienne on the last taxpayer-funded ABC Q&A of Monday September
10th, which is viewed by about 1,000,000 people, made extremely
insulting remarks about the Bible and Christianity. I didn’ t see any
Christian riots in protest. If the Australian Government wants to
maintain its much-celebrated multicultural tolerant society it should
therefore consider severely curtailing muslim immigration.

Bob Vinni

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Right there you've got basically all you need to know about Western timidity in the face of Islam's absurd grievance culture, which demands and receives knife-point compliance in societies that otherwise revel in free speech.The threat of violence is only one factor. Many who are otherwise fearless over religious issues are silent when it comes to Islam, out of spineless concern they'll be labelled bigots.

Which leaves Australia and Sydney in a fascinating position. Look at almost any media report of Saturday's riots and note the caution, bordering on self-censorship. The Sydney Morning Herald's online headline late on Saturday summed up that paper's trembly, eyes-averted alarm. In the wake of attacks on police and property, and with the city astonished by the views expressed, the Herald went with: "Police gas Sydney protesters."

Compare that attitude with that of the protesters, who are presently so bold that they'll cheerfully walk along Sydney's streets carrying signs calling for non-Muslims to be decapitated. If we're now at this point, what next? And when will Australians and the West in general feel confident in denouncing such vicious, primitive hatred?

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After the RIOT we are getting comments such as this.

VIOLENT DEMONSTRATION IN SYDNEY ON SATURDAY CALLS FOR A RE-THINK OF
IMMIGRATION POLLICY

Listening to, and reading, the commentary today - it looks as though a lot of people are very satisfied that this has happened simply because they can now hate Muslims openly and with justification. The media has had a field day playing on our "indignation" with open ended questions such as - "how dare they do such a thing in this wonderful, peace loving country"? The responses have been overwhelmingly against Muslims.