Reasons not to vote GREEN

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Let us not forget Labor mantra.
Don't tell me you still vote Green mantra

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At the IWC meeting in Panama, the Federal Minister for the Environment voted in support of a quota for a Caribbean nation who will, as a result of his and others’ votes, kill 24 Humpbacks from 2013-2018.

St Vincents & The Grenadines has a long history of infractions at the IWC as its ” whalers” hunt the Humpbacks in speedboats, often separating cows and calves in the most cruel manner.

Thanks to the US who ” bundled together “genuine Aboriginal subsistence whaling quotas with highly controversial non-Aboriginal subsistence quotas such as St Vincents, the kill will go ahead. The US under Pres. Obama has become the new Japan. With great dedication and major bullying tactics, the US is systematically destroying the IWC.

Minister Burke‘s vote in favour of the slaughter is a direct contradiction of Australia‘s strong anti-whaling policy. Australians are entitled to know that the Gillard government now supports slaughtering Humpbacks in the Northern Hemisphere whilst protecting the Southern Hemisphere whales. As well, Australia now supports the use of speedboats and the killing of cows and calves.

This is outrageous.

So I called the following Green offices. This report gives a good indication of where the Greens priorities now stand.

Senator Scott Ludlum had commented last week on the announcement by South Korea that it would start whaling. This week, his office says it’s not his portfolio and I should call Senator Lee Rhiannon.
I called her office and was told that she doesn’t deal with the issue, I should call Sen. Christine Milne.
I called Christine Milne‘s office and was told that no, the Senator was not dealing with the issue, I should call Sen. Rachel Siewart.

So I called Sen. Siewart’s office and was told that she has only just taken on the whaling portfolio and neither she nor her policy advisor were available.
‘Was it enough to just leave a message about my concerns’ I was asked ?

Are you kidding ? Do you know how many Australians would be so pissed off and angry to learn that the Gillard government supported the slaughter of Humpbacks in the Northern Hemisphere ?!

Someone might call me back, was the response. I’m still waiting.

So much for the Australian Greens. The environment and Australia‘s whaling policy are way down on their agenda. A really shocking state of affairs.

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Let us not forget Labor mantra.
Don't tell me you still vote Green mantra

Odd, isn't it?

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Yes I will continue to vote for the Greens. The party obviously has declined since Senator Brown departed and I knew that would happen, but they are still better than anything else on offer.

The Greens today supported a bill to reinstate the free air fare for our single diggers to come home for Xmas from overseas. It was successful. They are also trying to keep the Dutch fishing trawler out of Australian waters which the opposition, Oakeshott and Windsor aren't doing.

The Greens made a huge mistake signing up with Labor. They perform better as a party biting the ankles of the major parties.

Most of the articles used against the Greens are opinions only and very negative opinions at that. Those spruiking hatred against them are just Liberal sheep quoting offensive slogans.

This is the typical ugliness which emanates from the Coalition. Ugly people with ugly mouths.

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Well mantra this topic was started by me so Skippy could tell us all why we should vote green. So far there are no reasons visible.
So how about you start us off with why we should?

Yes I will continue to vote for the Greens. Why? The party obviously has declined since Senator Brown departed and I knew that would happen, but they are still better than anything else on offer. Why?

The Greens today supported a bill to reinstate the free air fare for our single diggers to come home for Xmas from overseas. You mean the one put up by the Coalition. the one supported and brought about by a partition started by Independents and support of 2Gb and its listeners? the people you say have big ugly mouths? It was successful. They are also trying to keep the Dutch fishing trawler out of Australian waters which the opposition, Oakeshott and Windsor aren't doing. Well I agree with that, but one minor issue is hardly a reason to vote for them. Oakeshott also voted against the defence bill.

The Greens made a huge mistake signing up with Labor. Some say Labor made the mistake giving the greens power. I tend to agree. They perform better as a party biting the ankles of the major parties. How so?

Most of the articles used against the Greens are opinions only and very negative opinions at that. You lot spruiking hatred against them are just Liberal sheep quoting offensive slogans. I'm not spruiking hatred. That's just prog speak for someone disagrees with me. The Libs don't have offensive slogans... That photo isn't a Liberal Party rally you know.

This is the typical ugliness which emanates from the Coalition. Ugly people with ugly mouths. Rubbish mantra. I have personally seen and been subject to abuse and violence from LW progressives, the real ugly people mantra, you need to get out more.

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Greens stay silent after abject elections
September 13, 2012
Paul Sheehan
Sydney Morning Herald columnist

It was surprising how little was made about the meltdown in the Greens vote in statewide local elections held in NSW over the weekend.

I kept waiting for this shoe to drop but it never did.

In my local government area, Woollahra Council, the erosion was significant for the party of David Shoebridge, the most high-profile Greens member of the NSW Parliament, whose political base was there.

The swing against the Greens in the Woollahra area was a whopping 12 per cent. The Greens won just 11.5 per cent of the vote despite Labor being almost invisible.

A 12 per cent swing against any party is a negative landslide, especially as the left field was otherwise empty. Labor received 2 per cent of the vote, the Liberals 52 per cent and the independent Residents First 30 per cent.

The Sydney bastions of the Greens where they had exercised influence were mostly disasters. In Leichhardt, the swing against the Greens was 11 per cent. In Canterbury, it was 10 per cent. In Marrickville, a council made notorious by Greens ideological excesses and obsessions about Israel, the Greens vote dropped 7.4 per cent while the Liberals picked up an 11 per cent swing.

In the City of Sydney election the Greens received only 9.2 per cent of the vote. They suffered a nine per cent negative swing, twice the swing against Labor. The independent Clover Moore romped home again in the mayoral election with 51 per cent. The Greens' mayoral candidate received 6.4 per cent.

There were other heavy anti-Green swings in Lane Cove, Burwood, Ashfield, Hurstville, Waverley and Cessnock.

Lesser swings went against the Greens across a swathe of council or shire elections in Randwick, Manly, Newcastle, Gosford, Hawkesbury, Auburn, Bankstown, the Blue Mountains, Byron Shire, Canada Bay, Lake Macquarie, Maitland, Rockdale, Wagga Wagga, Wingecarribee (Southern Highlands) and Queanbeyan

In most elections contested by the Greens the primary beneficiary of the swings against them were the Liberals.

The Greens did improve their vote in Fairfield, Hornsby, Shoalhaven, Ryde, Parramatta, Penrith, Liverpool and Wyong, but in nearly every case it was a modest improvement off a small base vote.

These stood out in an otherwise general retreat.

Not one word of contrition has come from the Greens leadership, because the sanctimonious are never wrong. Other people are merely misguided. This tone is one reason why the Greens have not been able to translate broad concern about the environment into broad political support.

The most prominent Green in NSW, Senator Lee Rhiannon, has nothing to say about the NSW local government election on her website.

Shoebridge, the party's number one candidate for the upper house in the state election last year, was equally silent. The media statements he has posted this week concern the right to silence by people accused of a crime and the need for an independent investigation into the alleged bashing by police of an Aboriginal man in Ballina.

This is typical. While Rhiannon and Shoebridge operate under the banner of the Greens, they are not environmentalists. Rhiannon is a rebadged Marxist. Shoebridge is a union lawyer. He spent six years as a solicitor at Taylor and Scott, a union law firm, and since leaving Woollahra Council for the NSW Parliament he has served as a mouthpiece for the unions, with a particular affinity for the ostentatiously bent Construction Forestry Mining and Engineering Union. As I have mentioned elsewhere, The Greens were taken over by LW progressives less interested in the environment and more interested in socially Progressive/divisive change. Bob Brown was a leader of this change in the party.

The CFMEU has been a major benefactor of the Greens in other parts of Australia and the union's violent underbelly has returned to notoriety for all the wrong reasons.

Last year, Shoebridge set the record for the longest speech ever delivered in the 188-year history of the Legislative Council. It had nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with supporting the public sector unions and their unsustainable, budget-crippling wage increases.

Meanwhile, back in the environment, the state's most conspicuous environmentalist politician, Moore, sought re-election on a platform whose centrepiece included the building of a local sustainable energy grid combined with radically improved water and waste recycling. It is one of the most important environmental blueprints in Australia.

It is real environmentalism, while the Greens expend so much of their energies elsewhere.

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Green MP Adam Bandt opens on Marxism
* by: SAMANTHA MAIDEN
* From: The Sunday Telegraph
* September 23, 2012 12:00AM

GREENS deputy leader Adam Bandt kept prying eyes from his PhD thesis exploring the theories of Karl Marx by slapping a three-year suppression order on the tome.

The former teen Marxist, who confesses he once described the Greens as "bourgeois", revealed the conclusion to his 300-page epic is that Marxism did not offer "a proper explanation for what was happening in 21st century society".

He finished the thesis four years ago, but requested officials impose a three-year ban on anyone reading it.

The Bandt ban has now expired and The Sunday Telegraph obtained a copy from Monash University. It is titled Work to Rule: Rethinking Marx, Pashukanis and Law, and includes chapters on "The Fuhrer Of The Factory", exploring labour law in the Third Reich.

But Mr Bandt denied he asked for his doctorate to be kept under lock and key to prevent political enemies making an issue of his Marxism doctorate at the 2010 election.

"I had hoped to publish my thesis as a book, and still do so - on advice I ticked the box on the form that allows the work to remain confidential while discussions about publishing take place. My thesis looked at the connection between globalisation and the trend of governments to take away people's rights by suspending the rule of law," Mr Bandt said.

"Unlike Tony Abbott I am prepared to admit I said and did some things as a young student 20 years ago that I wouldn't say or do now, including being a member of the Labor Party.

"I believe democracy and non-violence are the only solutions to the big problems facing humanity and that's why I'm in the Greens." Gee I wonder what the rest of us think about democracy and violence? Moron...

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Admittedly the Greens aren't doing too well at the moment, but that's because Bob Brown has left and the major parties need someone to blame for their mistakes.

He looks very well and is getting the rest he deserves, if you can call trying to preserve the whales and fighting the multinationals resting. He looks happy. It wouldn't surprise me, after the next election when the Greens no longer have to compromise themselves in government - he returns to the party as their leader.



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Yeah.... go Bob, doing all those important things in life

The Greens get blamed because they deserve it.

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Lee Rhiannon...

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excerpt...

For a small but loud group of people – people I am somewhat reticent to write about for fear of inviting a deluge of emails from wackos – the September 11 terror attacks are unbelievable in a different way. They are unbelievable because, they argue, terrorists did not hijack planes and fly them into the Twin Towers. Instead, they believe the whole thing was an elaborate hoax, either a controlled detonation or a joint operation masterminded by the United States itself to justify a war against Islam. Some of them argue that Osama bin Laden didn’t exist, or was not behind what happened, despite his appearing in a film claiming full responsibility.

It is not so much an opinion as a diagnosable mental illness, but there you go. They think it’s the truth, and that’s why they give themselves the silly name of “truthers”.