Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by skippy » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:25 pm

Now we're even.
We'll never be even,Mel, I'm ALWAYS right and you are ALWAYS wrong, my wittle putty cat. :rofl

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by mellie » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:34 pm

skippy wrote:
Now we're even.
We'll never be even,Mel, I'm ALWAYS right and you are ALWAYS wrong, my wittle putty cat. :rofl

Keep dreaming Skip... 8-)

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by mellie » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:56 pm

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph ... rity/P100/


Have you read this Skip?


It's this governments Ingsoc brand of national socialism that's so toxic.

Labor and the Greens have noone other than themselves to blame for their grave predicament, though will continue blaming Tony Abbott anyway.

I mean, who else can they blame right?


Certainly not themselves for their carnival of freaks as this would be electoral suicide. ...besides, Gillard already did the "Labor has lost it's way" thingy last time round...so blame has to be laid elsewhere. But are we buying it?


((NO)))
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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:25 pm

Actually, the main thing in that Nielsen is the plunge in Abbott’s ratings. People can say they support LNP and hate Abbott 18 months from an election but when they are actually in a voting booth then that is a very different matter.

Basically, no LOTO can or has won an election with PPM and approvals so low. Prime Ministers can but not LOTOs—e.g. Keating won in ’93 against Hewson with very low approval figures.

Look at the Nielsen, Greens at 14 is 2-3 points too high, Others also too high so I think this Nielsen is like the last Newspoll and this weeks Essential poll with 32-33% PV for Labor.

So you will have an excellent Labor govt for 2013–16 Mel. Take advantage and seek psychiatric care you fucking kunt!

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:44 pm

26% you fucking liebor stooge
So you will have an excellent Labor govt for 2013–16
Paul Kunting Keating wrote:"You can't win a national election in Australia without a '4' in front of the primary number,"
Suck it up you stupid fuck- Thhe liebor party will be gone for generations
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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by mellie » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:56 pm

Monk, when will Labor find it's way?

8-)

Judging by the polls, it's not even close.

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:47 pm

Not only is Labor support starting to improve, almost imperceptibly improve, Abbott’s PPM and approval are tanking rapidly.

When replying to a pollster you can say you love LNP but hate Abbott. You cannot do that once an election is in sight. An unpopular LOTO cannot and has not won an election.

Already Tone is backtracking from his “the sky is falling in” re the carbon price to “it will be a python hug not a cobra strike.” What that means is all his crap re the “carbon tax” was a lie. That is really going to do wonders for his approval ratings, not! So the support for the govt will creep up a little faster after 1st July, as will approval and PPM for Gillard.

Tone’s whole approach was to go for a quick knockout blow, force a by election so he could slide into government sans policies, sans costings, sans savings and sans scrutiny. That is how he used to box at Oxford, no style no grace just go in like a whirling dervish and hit as hard as he could. So every non–sitting day another stunt, moving boxes, gutting fish and preaching that the sky will fall in. Thomson, Slipper—oops, gonna be a LOT of blowback on Tone from those two!

Then we had Run Rabbot Run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... E16yS_n9HE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and now the retreat from the sky is falling and we can say Tone is finished, flat on his back on the floor of the ring and the referee is counting 5. .6. . but it will take quite a few months before the polls are dire enough for the Libs to seriously start contemplating a change of Leader, not that is there a lot of talent in the Howardista dregs that make up the Liberal Parliamentary Party.

Three polls, Newspol 32, Essential 33 and the Nielsen. Rejoice in the Nielsen if you like, I have pointed out the Green and Other support are way too high and that I think it too is in the 32-33 range. You might even find polls in the last week of June are a bit worse for Labor as some get last minute nerves about the carbon price but after that there will be a remorseless tide of bad news for Lib supporters.

Complicating things for the Libs are that the MRRT and NBN are very popular and Turnbull is not fooling nobody with his stupid NBN criticisms and replacements—those that have the NBN have signed up overwhelmingly for the 100/40 or the 50/20 plans. The NBN is no white elephant.

Even if Labor is still way behind with the election near I would still be confident—Tone is going to have to explain all his costings and savings for rescinding the CP/NBN/MRRT and restoring the private insurance health rebate etc etc and show a surplus and all that. Can’t be done.

Oh, and Nats numbers in Parliament might gradually decline, with Greens and Katter’s Party taking Nationals’ seats. Might be a VERY long time before a right of centre party form government again.

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:06 pm

:rofl :rofl :rofl

26%
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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:04 am

Much more like 32% like NewsPol and ER but enjoy while it lasts. Best not look at Abbott’s approvals from now on, might lead to an increase in codeine etc intake.

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Re: Nielsen's polls show Labor really is doomed

Post by mellie » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:01 am

Jovial Monk wrote:Much more like 32% like NewsPol and ER but enjoy while it lasts. Best not look at Abbott’s approvals from now on, might lead to an increase in codeine etc intake.

Again, this is not a direct-elect republican style election therefore people vote for a given party, not purely it's leader.


Of course, it would suit INGSOC (aka Labor) if we were to become a republic, this way they might stand a 'slight' chance, assuming they could bribe enough 'foreign' 'globalist' elites to fund their presidential style campaign.

Monk, Labors presidential self-styled republican candidates are neither qualified to drive our economy or are team-players, I think the last team-player they had was Bob Hawke, and this was only because he needed his sober ministers to wipe his spew off the floor and clean up after him after a night on the booze. <---(To which I'm sure you can relate)

But at least old Bob was a patriot, this and demonstrated a reasonable degree of party loyalty.

Can the same be said for Labors current treacherous back-stabbing line-up?

Like I said, if they will betray close colleagues (fellow cabinet ministers) and their own party, then they will think nothing of betraying voters, Labor is a broken machine, has been for years, Mark Latham (Former Labor leader ) was right about this.



Again, read it and weep.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... dsun/C889/

Personal approval ratings mean nothing, and the above article explains why in simple English even you should be able to understand, Monk.



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