Is there a role for nuclear energy?

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Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:32 pm

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Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:36 pm

All of which relates to nuclear energy how?

The 4th Gen reactors would simply stop working if something like a 9.0 earthquake hit.

A major problem there at the moment is used fuel rods just lying in a pool—they should have been disposed of properly. Broken Hill could take this waste and bury it in the abandoned lead-zinc-silver mines nice and deep below ground level and earn us and BH a motza doing so!

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Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Viking King. » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:44 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:All of which relates to nuclear energy how?

The 4th Gen reactors would simply stop working if something like a 9.0 earthquake hit.

A major problem there at the moment is used fuel rods just lying in a pool—they should have been disposed of properly. Broken Hill could take this waste and bury it in the abandoned lead-zinc-silver mines nice and deep below ground level and earn us and BH a motza doing so!
The idea is to keep the active and spent rods as cool as possible, putting them down a disused mine shaft won't help at all, it is hot underground,
one other way "MIGHT" work, deep freeze them, put them on a non returnable rocket, send off to far beyond the other side of the sun, we are already bombarded with space radiations, what might become of spent fuel rods way out there would be nothing should it get around.

Jovial Monk

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:56 pm

Oh no, shooting fuel rods out into space might work a few times, then a rocket explodes and showers radioactive material, not thanks!

The fuel rods can be reduced in size, will reduce the radioactive reactions heaps and can be stored in watertanks in the mine shafts.

Viking King.

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Viking King. » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:07 am

Jovial Monk wrote:Oh no, shooting fuel rods out into space might work a few times, then a rocket explodes and showers radioactive material, not thanks!

The fuel rods can be reduced in size, will reduce the radioactive reactions heaps and can be stored in watertanks in the mine shafts.
True, but they must be kept cool at all times that same way as in the plants when active,
what happens if the cooling system fails and cannot be turned back on due to electical burnout or similar?
There are so many "What if"
As mentioned earlier, the reactor plants are a few gens old, but it is also said that Japan has maintained to the highest degree and more, the safety and integrity of the plants, which is why they as yet have not been exposed or damaged.

Jovial Monk

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:31 am

I am pretty sure the spent rods were just kept in a pool on top of reactor 4, no special cooling.

Also, the company running the power station there falsified inspection records over a long period and should have retired some of the reactors by now.

Viking King.

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Viking King. » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:45 am

Jovial Monk wrote:I am pretty sure the spent rods were just kept in a pool on top of reactor 4, no special cooling.

Also, the company running the power station there falsified inspection records over a long period and should have retired some of the reactors by now.
I didn't hear it mentioned how many reactors there are, I counted 17 across the islands,
must be at least one for each main island by the looks of it.
If we could find a more efficiant way to look after the rods and a more easier way of cooling, I'm sure the world would go with it and take up nuclear power, but at the mo it is so hard to look after when something does go wrong either natural or neglect.
That's the only part stopping other countries, the "potential hazard"

Jovial Monk

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:52 am

Rods are very old stuff, newer reactors don’t use rods.

Viking King.

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Viking King. » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:03 am

Jovial Monk wrote:Rods are very old stuff, newer reactors don’t use rods.
Common terminology, same as termites and white ants, termites are termites not ants, they are a cousin to the cockroach but in a court "White ant" is recognised more than the name termite.
What is nuclear fuel called now apart from uranium?

Jovial Monk

Re: Is there a role for nuclear energy?

Post by Jovial Monk » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:06 am

Again, uranium is on the way out, thorium will be the nuclear fuel of the future. Good thing we have tons of thorium, eh?

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