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Re: Global Warming

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:26 pm

Do you get the point about the lower nitrogen intake?

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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:29 pm

Do you understand that there has been no warming for 17 years?
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Re: Global Warming

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:31 pm

Hasn’t there? you better tell BuMet and CSIRO. . .ah, no, of course, those bodies just do pseudoscience, right? :rofl

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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:36 pm

See, you are ignoring the science.
Is that because the ALP hasn't told you about that bit yet?

Why don't you pay attention to the IPCC? Doesn't fit the ALP talking points?

You fucking piece of lying shit.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:45 pm

Just gotta love Monk's "Runaway! Runaway!" tactic right out of Monty Python... keep ignoring stuff you can't answer... he's a past master at it.

Please let him be banned, before the place goes to total shyte.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by GeorgeH » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:49 pm

Since you numpties have no idea: a lower nitrogen intake means plants can’t make as much protein.

Consider what that means to the food value of plants.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Sep 26, 2014 11:50 pm

Still denying the science, so throws in the red herrings... :rofl

You fucking dickhead.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:49 am

GeorgeH wrote:Since you numpties have no idea: a lower nitrogen intake means plants can’t make as much protein.

Consider what that means to the food value of plants.

Oh dear.... numpty?
There are some very good articles on the NET re the greenhouse effect and how CO2 levels affect plant life. YOU Monk need to do more than just cherry pick the odd sentence and repeat crap you make up in your head about it. You also need to read more widely and get a better handle on the actual situation. The following excerpt is one which probably is much more accurate and balanced than the crap you regurgitate. i will highlight some specifics for you.
CO2 is the source of the carbon that plants turn into organic compounds, and it is well established that higher CO2 levels can have a fertilising effect on many plants, boosting growth by as much as a third.

However, some plants already have mechanisms for concentrating CO2 in their tissues, known as C4 photosynthesis, so higher CO2 will not boost the growth of C4 plants.

Where water is a limiting factor, all plants could benefit. Plants lose water through the pores in leaves that let CO2 enter. Higher CO2 levels mean they do not need to open these pores as much, reducing water loss.

However, it is extremely difficult to generalise about the overall impact of the fertilisation effect on plant growth. Numerous groups around the world have been conducting experiments in which plots of land are supplied with enhanced CO2, while comparable nearby plots remain at normal levels.

These experiments suggest that higher CO2 levels could boost the yields of non-C4 crops by around 13 per cent.
As for food crops, the factors are more complex. The crops most widely used in the world for food in many cases depend on particular combinations of soil type, climate, moisture, weather patterns and the infrastructure of equipment, experience and distribution systems. If the climate warms so much that crops no longer thrive in their traditional settings, farming of some crops may be able to shift to adjacent areas, but others may not. Rich farmers and countries will be able to adapt more easily than poorer ones.

Predicting the world's overall changes in food production in response to elevated CO2 is virtually impossible. Global production is expected to rise until the increase in local average temperatures exceeds 3°C, but then start to fall. In tropical and dry regions increases of just 1 to 2°C are expected to lead to falls in production. In marginal lands where water is the greatest constraint, which includes much of the developing world but also regions such as the western US, the losses may greatly exceed the gains.
BTW plants don't get Nitrogen from the air if that was your point.
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Re: Global Warming

Post by GeorgeH » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:09 am

No, my point was that at some point, not far from where we are now, increasing CO2 will warm the globe at a faster rate and we will see plants:

1. Unable to absorb enough CO2 from the air—temperature effect

2. Absorb less nitrogen, lowering their protein content.

Your article shows several problems from increased warming and increased CO2. I suggest you study it.

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Re: Global Warming

Post by Rorschach » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:17 am

GeorgeH wrote:No, my point was that at some point, not far from where we are now, increasing CO2 will warm the globe at a faster rate and we will see plants:

1. Unable to absorb enough CO2 from the air—temperature effect

2. Absorb less nitrogen, lowering their protein content.

Your article shows several problems from increased warming and increased CO2. I suggest you study it.
Oh dear.... wrong... you just cant keep repeating crap that shows you clearly don't understand.
I suggest you actually read what I quoted for you so you learn something. I was addressing your crap. I read the whole article you fwit. I've read lots more besides and I've had a blooody good education. YOU however seem to have had none.

Please can we just have this moron banned? hmmm... for my sanity... please.... :roll:
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