you are a sad lot...No worries I'll keep posting the facts regardless.
Oh and Boofhead.. I don't just quote journalists and those I do quote quote scientists.
errr Global Warming?
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Re: errr Global Warming?
Still ignoring/denying the facts eh SN...
you are a sad lot...
No worries I'll keep posting the facts regardless.
Oh and Boofhead.. I don't just quote journalists and those I do quote quote scientists.
you are a sad lot...No worries I'll keep posting the facts regardless.
Oh and Boofhead.. I don't just quote journalists and those I do quote quote scientists.
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Re: errr Global Warming?
there seems conjecture on when the age of Aquarious begins-
But even if you equalize the size of the signs of the Zodiac, you need to consider when the Age of Pisces started to be able to know when the Age of Aquarius begins. Apparently, there’s no firm consensus among astrologers as to when the Age of Pisces began, either. And thus there is no consensus as to when the Age of Aquarius begins. In The Book of World Horoscopes, Nicholas Campion suggests that approximated dates for entering the Age of Aquarius range from 1447 AD to 3597 AD. Campion also reviewed published material on the subject, from astrological sources. He says that most writers claim the Age of Aquarius arrived in the 20th century (29 claims). The 24th century is in second place (12 claims). Campion, by the way, is director of the Sophia Centre and Course Director of the MA in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology at the University of Wales, Lampeter. See Campion’s credentials here.
Some astrologers say the Age of Aquarius actually began in 2012. That’s because they believe the star Regulus in the constellation Leo the Lion marked the ancient border between the constellations Leo and Cancer. This star moved to within 30o of the September equinox point in 2012, meaning that Regulus left the sign Leo to enter the sign Virgo in that year. Presuming equal-sized constellations in antiquity, that places the border of the constellations Pisces and Aquarius at 150o west of Regulus, or at the March equinox point. By this reckoning, the Age of Aquarius started in 2012.
But the old hippy in me wants it to be now.
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But even if you equalize the size of the signs of the Zodiac, you need to consider when the Age of Pisces started to be able to know when the Age of Aquarius begins. Apparently, there’s no firm consensus among astrologers as to when the Age of Pisces began, either. And thus there is no consensus as to when the Age of Aquarius begins. In The Book of World Horoscopes, Nicholas Campion suggests that approximated dates for entering the Age of Aquarius range from 1447 AD to 3597 AD. Campion also reviewed published material on the subject, from astrological sources. He says that most writers claim the Age of Aquarius arrived in the 20th century (29 claims). The 24th century is in second place (12 claims). Campion, by the way, is director of the Sophia Centre and Course Director of the MA in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology at the University of Wales, Lampeter. See Campion’s credentials here.
Some astrologers say the Age of Aquarius actually began in 2012. That’s because they believe the star Regulus in the constellation Leo the Lion marked the ancient border between the constellations Leo and Cancer. This star moved to within 30o of the September equinox point in 2012, meaning that Regulus left the sign Leo to enter the sign Virgo in that year. Presuming equal-sized constellations in antiquity, that places the border of the constellations Pisces and Aquarius at 150o west of Regulus, or at the March equinox point. By this reckoning, the Age of Aquarius started in 2012.
But the old hippy in me wants it to be now.
[youtube]The 5th Dimension Age of Aquarius 1969 - YouTube
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Re: errr Global Warming?
NO evidence of warming.... my arse.
Once Stable Greenland Glaciers Face Rapid Melt
Ice sheets in the northeast of the world’s largest island have started to retreat
By Andrea Thompson and Climate Central | November 12, 2015
The mass of miles-thick ice that covers most of Greenland could raise global sea levels by some 20 feet if it all melted.
Greenland Travel/Flickr, CC BY 2.0
For years, much of the concern about the melting of Greenland’s massive ice sheet has been focused on the massive retreat of glaciers in the island’s southeast and west, fueled by climate change. Those on its colder, drier northeast corner were thought to be stable.
But a new study detailed in the journal Science shows that two of those glaciers are showing worrying changes, and that one has been retreating at an accelerating rate in recent years as it faces a dual attack by warm air from above and warm water from below.
These shifts mean this area of the frozen expanse could increase Greenland’s contributions to overall sea level rise in the coming years, the study researchers conclude.
The results show the changes that are piling up in the fastest-warming region of the planet, the Arctic, as the world heats up from the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
“One more sector of Greenland is affected by the change” in Earth’s climate, study co-author Jeremie Mouginot, an associate project scientist at the University of California, Irvine, said.
Image time series of Zachariae Isstrøm from the Landsat satellite. Retreat of the glacier front is shown as a line color-coded from dark green (2003) to light green (2015).
From stable to tetreat
The mass of miles-thick ice that covers most of Greenland could raise global sea levels by some 20 feet if it all melted. It is already estimated to have contributed 30 percent of the 8 inches of sea level rise that has occurred since the beginning of the 20th century.
In order to improve predictions of what Greenland could funnel into the oceans as warming continues, scientists are working to better understand the processes that are causing its glaciers to melt and retreat. To do this they are using a number of tools, including airborne radar surveys and myriad satellite instruments, to get a clearer picture of what is happening at the surface of the ice and at its base, where it glides over bedrock.
The new study compiled data from some of the sources for two marine glaciers in northeast Greenland, Zachariae Isstrom and its neighbor, Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden. Together, these glaciers, essentially slowly flowing rivers of ice, reach deep into the center of the ice sheet, draining about 12 percent of it. The two glaciers hold enough ice to raise sea levels by about 3.5 feet. Marine glaciers are ones that run from land to sea, where the ice begins to float. That tongue of floating ice is called an ice shelf and acts as a doorstop, buttressing the glacier behind it.
In their data, the researchers saw that while Zachariae was stable for decades, that all changed when a huge chunk of its ice shelf broke off in 2002-03, after which the remainder continued to crumble. Today it is only 5 percent of the size it was in 2002.
With that stabilizing force reduced, the glacier steadily retreated until 2012, when it noticeably sped up and started shedding ice from its grounding line, the point where ice transitions from land to the sea. The team calculated that between 2011 and 2015, the grounding line retreated the same amount as it had in the 15 years prior, a quadrupling of its retreat rate.
Likewise, the surface flow of the glacier tripled its acceleration after the 2012 event, and the thinning of the glacier and its ice shelf doubled, the researchers found.
“The new results are important and consistent with earlier findings,” Shfaqat Khan, a senior researcher at theTechnical University of Denmark who has studied the same glaciers but wasn’t involved in the new study, said in an email.
While Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden is also rapidly melting, it isn’t retreating as quickly because the bedrock beneath it slopes upward toward the sea, whereas the ground below Zachariae slopes downward, speeding its way. But if Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden’s ice shelf sees a similar breakup, the pace of its retreat could also quicken. The same is true for other northern glaciers that are currently stable but seem to have some of the same processes at work.
Just ‘the beginning’
Right now the total amount of melt from Zachariae is small compared to other big-name retreating glaciers, like Jakobshavn Isbrae in the southeast. But that could easily change, Mouginot said. “Right now it’s at the beginning.”
“If the current trend continues, the northeast corner will become a significant contributor, or perhaps the largest contributor, in the near future,” Khan said.
The researchers think that the melt and retreat of the northeast glaciers is due to a combination of warmer air at the surface and an invasion of warm water cutting away at the ice shelf and glacier from below. The problem is they don’t have direct measurements of water temperatures there, something Mouginot said he and his colleagues were lobbying to include in efforts like NASA’s Oceans Melting Greenland research initiative.
But based on what they do know, Mouginot and his colleagues write that, “the destabilization of this marine-based sector will increase sea-level rise from the Greenland Ice Sheet for decades to come.”
This article is reproduced with permission from Climate Central. The article was first published on November 12, 2015.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... apid-melt/
Once Stable Greenland Glaciers Face Rapid Melt
Ice sheets in the northeast of the world’s largest island have started to retreat
By Andrea Thompson and Climate Central | November 12, 2015
The mass of miles-thick ice that covers most of Greenland could raise global sea levels by some 20 feet if it all melted.
Greenland Travel/Flickr, CC BY 2.0
For years, much of the concern about the melting of Greenland’s massive ice sheet has been focused on the massive retreat of glaciers in the island’s southeast and west, fueled by climate change. Those on its colder, drier northeast corner were thought to be stable.
But a new study detailed in the journal Science shows that two of those glaciers are showing worrying changes, and that one has been retreating at an accelerating rate in recent years as it faces a dual attack by warm air from above and warm water from below.
These shifts mean this area of the frozen expanse could increase Greenland’s contributions to overall sea level rise in the coming years, the study researchers conclude.
The results show the changes that are piling up in the fastest-warming region of the planet, the Arctic, as the world heats up from the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
“One more sector of Greenland is affected by the change” in Earth’s climate, study co-author Jeremie Mouginot, an associate project scientist at the University of California, Irvine, said.
Image time series of Zachariae Isstrøm from the Landsat satellite. Retreat of the glacier front is shown as a line color-coded from dark green (2003) to light green (2015).
From stable to tetreat
The mass of miles-thick ice that covers most of Greenland could raise global sea levels by some 20 feet if it all melted. It is already estimated to have contributed 30 percent of the 8 inches of sea level rise that has occurred since the beginning of the 20th century.
In order to improve predictions of what Greenland could funnel into the oceans as warming continues, scientists are working to better understand the processes that are causing its glaciers to melt and retreat. To do this they are using a number of tools, including airborne radar surveys and myriad satellite instruments, to get a clearer picture of what is happening at the surface of the ice and at its base, where it glides over bedrock.
The new study compiled data from some of the sources for two marine glaciers in northeast Greenland, Zachariae Isstrom and its neighbor, Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden. Together, these glaciers, essentially slowly flowing rivers of ice, reach deep into the center of the ice sheet, draining about 12 percent of it. The two glaciers hold enough ice to raise sea levels by about 3.5 feet. Marine glaciers are ones that run from land to sea, where the ice begins to float. That tongue of floating ice is called an ice shelf and acts as a doorstop, buttressing the glacier behind it.
In their data, the researchers saw that while Zachariae was stable for decades, that all changed when a huge chunk of its ice shelf broke off in 2002-03, after which the remainder continued to crumble. Today it is only 5 percent of the size it was in 2002.
With that stabilizing force reduced, the glacier steadily retreated until 2012, when it noticeably sped up and started shedding ice from its grounding line, the point where ice transitions from land to the sea. The team calculated that between 2011 and 2015, the grounding line retreated the same amount as it had in the 15 years prior, a quadrupling of its retreat rate.
Likewise, the surface flow of the glacier tripled its acceleration after the 2012 event, and the thinning of the glacier and its ice shelf doubled, the researchers found.
“The new results are important and consistent with earlier findings,” Shfaqat Khan, a senior researcher at theTechnical University of Denmark who has studied the same glaciers but wasn’t involved in the new study, said in an email.
While Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden is also rapidly melting, it isn’t retreating as quickly because the bedrock beneath it slopes upward toward the sea, whereas the ground below Zachariae slopes downward, speeding its way. But if Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden’s ice shelf sees a similar breakup, the pace of its retreat could also quicken. The same is true for other northern glaciers that are currently stable but seem to have some of the same processes at work.
Just ‘the beginning’
Right now the total amount of melt from Zachariae is small compared to other big-name retreating glaciers, like Jakobshavn Isbrae in the southeast. But that could easily change, Mouginot said. “Right now it’s at the beginning.”
“If the current trend continues, the northeast corner will become a significant contributor, or perhaps the largest contributor, in the near future,” Khan said.
The researchers think that the melt and retreat of the northeast glaciers is due to a combination of warmer air at the surface and an invasion of warm water cutting away at the ice shelf and glacier from below. The problem is they don’t have direct measurements of water temperatures there, something Mouginot said he and his colleagues were lobbying to include in efforts like NASA’s Oceans Melting Greenland research initiative.
But based on what they do know, Mouginot and his colleagues write that, “the destabilization of this marine-based sector will increase sea-level rise from the Greenland Ice Sheet for decades to come.”
This article is reproduced with permission from Climate Central. The article was first published on November 12, 2015.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... apid-melt/
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Nice strawman SN... what drugs are you on again?
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Fact is the roof tiles on your home could be warping and cracking from heat while the ocean was coming up your suburban street and you'd still claim Global Warming was was a world wide conspiracy theory.Rorschach wrote:Still ignoring/denying the facts eh SN...
That's pretty funny in an ironic way, coming from a schizo.Rorschach wrote:
You've made it abundantly clear you prefer any bogus theory to anything remotely resembling or containing facts.Rorschach wrote:No worries I'll keep posting the facts regardless.
You post any old crap from virtually any crackpot because you're a halfwit incapable of thinking for himself.Rorschach wrote:Oh and Boofhead.. I don't just quote journalists and those I do quote quote scientists.
And so my prior comment regarding you, seems to be right on the mark.
Outlaw Yogi wrote: I'm getting the impression you don't actually want a genuine explanation for what's happening, but just merely clutch at any straw which suggests an irregularity or anomaly not factored in as proof negative. I'm yet to see you or any like you come up with a plausible alternate explanation for what's happening or any viable let alone credible research that supports your position/opinion/argument.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?
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I'm not an astrologer or astronomer, so probably unqualified, but my own calculations (taking for granted the 2165 year time frame to pass through each sector represented by a zodiac character is reasonably accurate) the age of Pisces would have begun roughly around 150BC.skippy wrote:there seems conjecture on when the age of Aquarious begins-
But even if you equalize the size of the signs of the Zodiac, you need to consider when the Age of Pisces started to be able to know when the Age of Aquarius begins. Apparently, there’s no firm consensus among astrologers as to when the Age of Pisces began, either. And thus there is no consensus as to when the Age of Aquarius begins. In The Book of World Horoscopes, Nicholas Campion suggests that approximated dates for entering the Age of Aquarius range from 1447 AD to 3597 AD. Campion also reviewed published material on the subject, from astrological sources. He says that most writers claim the Age of Aquarius arrived in the 20th century (29 claims). The 24th century is in second place (12 claims). Campion, by the way, is director of the Sophia Centre and Course Director of the MA in Cultural Astronomy and Astrology at the University of Wales, Lampeter. See Campion’s credentials here.
Some astrologers say the Age of Aquarius actually began in 2012. That’s because they believe the star Regulus in the constellation Leo the Lion marked the ancient border between the constellations Leo and Cancer. This star moved to within 30o of the September equinox point in 2012, meaning that Regulus left the sign Leo to enter the sign Virgo in that year. Presuming equal-sized constellations in antiquity, that places the border of the constellations Pisces and Aquarius at 150o west of Regulus, or at the March equinox point. By this reckoning, the Age of Aquarius started in 2012.
But the old hippy in me wants it to be now.
[youtube]The 5th Dimension Age of Aquarius 1969 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; › watch
Video for the age of aquarius song
Duration: 3:51
Posted: Mar 21, 2009[/youtube]
If the Precession of the Equinoxes theory is correct regarding its influence on religion and in turn the terminology and phrases relating to it, that would explain why not long after the Age of Aries people were compared to sheep, with worshipers being refered to as "a flock" and a preacher described as "a shepherd".
If the Sphinx was carved in the Age of Leo (when the sun rose in Leo) and the lion's head recarved to that of a pharaoh in the last 5000 years, that would make the monument about 14,000 years old, and kick a big credibility hole in archeology. Which is why I find paleontology more reliable.
I remember in the 80s and 90s people saying "It's the Age of Aquarius" to which I'd dismiss with with the 21s of Dec 2012 date. Seems people just wanted it to be so, without any idea of what it actually means or entails.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?
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Oh and SN... in the Age of the Vikings Greenland was called Greenland... do you ever wonder why? 
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Because it was ice bound and covered in snow?Rorschach wrote:Oh and SN... in the Age of the Vikings Greenland was called Greenland... do you ever wonder why?
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Outlaw Yogi wrote:Fact is the roof tiles on your home could be warping and cracking from heat while the ocean was coming up your suburban street and you'd still claim Global Warming was was a world wide conspiracy theory. yet I've never denied warming at all MORONRorschach wrote:Still ignoring/denying the facts eh SN...
That's pretty funny in an ironic way, coming from a schizo. Continuous name calling doesn't help anything except perhaps YOUR self esteem MORON.Rorschach wrote:
You've made it abundantly clear you prefer any bogus theory to anything remotely resembling or containing facts. Wrong again MORON... wassup ignorant from birth?Rorschach wrote:No worries I'll keep posting the facts regardless.
You post any old crap from virtually any crackpot because you're a halfwit incapable of thinking for himself. prove it... oh right you cant you just lie because your a MORON.Rorschach wrote:Oh and Boofhead.. I don't just quote journalists and those I do quote quote scientists.
And so my prior comment regarding you, seems to be right on the mark. Only if you your a MORON.
So far all you do is lie about me and what I say... you MORON...Outlaw Yogi wrote: I'm getting the impression you don't actually want a genuine explanation for what's happening, but just merely clutch at any straw which suggests an irregularity or anomaly not factored in as proof negative. I'm yet to see you or any like you come up with a plausible alternate explanation for what's happening or any viable let alone credible research that supports your position/opinion/argument.
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No... it wasn't, but I suppose that's the best we can expect from you on the subject.Super Nova wrote:Because it was ice bound and covered in snow?Rorschach wrote:Oh and SN... in the Age of the Vikings Greenland was called Greenland... do you ever wonder why?
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