Pauline's latest stupid pronouncements

[Black Orchid]

the majors will start listening if we give our first preference to ON, Bernardi or another minor party or independent...

never give up!!

That's the point. Aussies are way too complacent and either vote for who they have always voted for or don't vote at all. How can we ever effect change if we don't voice our concerns at polling time?

No point in whinging about who we are lumped with if we don't make an effort. Turnbull and Shorten are the bottom of the pile.

[mellie]

This countries bureaucracy is top heavy enough, without adding anymore animals to the circus arena.

[Neferti]

This debate has been ongoing, and interestingly, politician's start pretending to give a damn just in time for an election. Then it all disappears back under the rug again.



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andre ... 73d2a12ea4


Sorry, not buying it.

the majors will start listening if we give our first preference to ON, Bernardi or another minor party or independent...

never give up!!

I have never understood the "preferential" thing. I didn't vote for anyone last Election ... got my name crossed off and that was that.

Voting 1 for anybody doesn't mean that your vote will go EXCLUSIVELY to that Party ... unfortunately.

I also disagree that we should be MADE to get our name marked off. Most people would rather pay the $20 fine ... . or try them on to see whether they would really, truly, take you to Court to make you pay 20 bucks. If Turncoat is still being the Big Shot .... he won't get my vote again and I might try the 20 buck or go to Gaol option.

[mellie]

Are we at risk of being swamped by Asians still Pauline?


https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv ... jhg1f.html

[mellie]

Pauline as a socially divisive hate mongering pedo hag and men's rites darling.


Sorry, I don't vote for socially destructive individuals.

Even when I might agree with a few of her "alleged" views.

Ask Pauline what reverse-racism is. I bet she still doesn't get it.

[The Mechanic]

This debate has been ongoing, and interestingly, politician's start pretending to give a damn just in time for an election. Then it all disappears back under the rug again.



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andre ... 73d2a12ea4


Sorry, not buying it.

the majors will start listening if we give our first preference to ON, Bernardi or another minor party or independent...

never give up!!

I have never understood the "preferential" thing. I didn't vote for anyone last Election ... got my name crossed off and that was that.

Voting 1 for anybody doesn't mean that your vote will go EXCLUSIVELY to that Party ... unfortunately.

I also disagree that we should be MADE to get our name marked off. Most people would rather pay the $20 fine ... . or try them on to see whether they would really, truly, take you to Court to make you pay 20 bucks. If Turncoat is still being the Big Shot .... he won't get my vote again and I might try the 20 buck or go to Gaol option.

if you don't have voter ID then you'll get what they have in America...

People being bused in from state to state voting illegally ....

hell... the Democrats even have dead people voting for them...

[brian ross]

I have never understood the "preferential" thing. I didn't vote for anyone last Election ... got my name crossed off and that was that.

Voting 1 for anybody doesn't mean that your vote will go EXCLUSIVELY to that Party ... unfortunately.

I also disagree that we should be MADE to get our name marked off. Most people would rather pay the $20 fine ... . or try them on to see whether they would really, truly, take you to Court to make you pay 20 bucks. If Turncoat is still being the Big Shot .... he won't get my vote again and I might try the 20 buck or go to Gaol option.

Neferti, the preference voting system assures that the person who most represents the views of the seat which is being elected, gets elected.

It does this by ensuring that the most popular candidate receives at least 51% of the cast votes, no matter how many candidates are standing.

This is achieved by the electors casting their votes for each candidate in order of their preference. When the votes are counted, the candidate who achieves the least number of votes is eliminated. Their preferences then are directed to the candidate that that candidate has chosen to receive them. This goes on until there are effectively two candidates left. The candidate who receives the greatest number of votes, wins, obviously but that number then represents the views of a majority of voters.

Only an optional preferential voting system is fairer.

A first-past-the-post voting system only works when there are essentially two candidates running. Any more than that, you can have the least popular winning the seat. This is achieved by the votes being split, with the third or fourth candidate receiving more votes than the more popular one.

I am unsure why people do not educate themselves about how their votes are counted however, it appears a common problem in many different democracies. Many Americans and British people cannot see the advantages of a preferential voting system. Indeed, the UK had a referendum on changing their voting system a couple of years ago where the most terrible lies were told about preferential voting. I mean, the UK doesn't even have a secret ballot in their elections, while in the US, your party membership is known via your voter registration. The "Australian Ballot" system - a true secret ballot is unknown in both countries. Your vote is traceable.

[mellie]

Basically Nef, the preference system provides smaller parties with bargaining power so they still have some power in negotiating with major parties.

They know they're unable to run the country, but this is a way they can negotiate preferences according to which leading party best reflects their smaller parties policy direction.

Bribery basically.

Let's call it what it is.

[Malcolm_hates_your_kids]

the majors will start listening if we give our first preference to ON, Bernardi or another minor party or independent...

never give up!!

That's the point. Aussies are way too complacent and either vote for who they have always voted for or don't vote at all. How can we ever effect change if we don't voice our concerns at polling time?

No point in whinging about who we are lumped with if we don't make an effort. Turnbull and Shorten are the bottom of the pile.

You could run for office!

[Malcolm_hates_your_kids]

Best learn to roll with it and learn a second language.

Might I suggest Chinese or Arabic.

Nah. I did 6 years of French at school. I can still read most of it but could never, ever, speak fluent French. I also did German and Italian later. ENGLISH is the main language ... too bad the Chinese don't realise it, the rest of the World does.

Why would the Chinese care?