Reasons not to vote LABOR.

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Nef's comment to Mantra must have struck a chord with our very own Bad Boy Bubby

How is your moeder Aussie?
Is she still giving to you as good as she's getting it from you?

[mantra]

Haven't we had enough of badmouthing members and their families? It's a pathetic way to try and score points.

Aussie defined lawyer a page or so ago, but they were all called solicitors here a few years back as Neferti said. Calling them lawyers is irritating. Do the English call them lawyers?

[Aussie]

Haven't we had enough of badmouthing members and their families? It's a pathetic way to try and score points.

Aussie defined lawyer a page or so ago, but they were all called solicitors here a few years back as Neferti said. Calling them lawyers is irritating. Do the English call them lawyers?

Not that I am aware of. The term 'lawyer' is an Americanism, and as far back as the 1980s, some Queensland Firms began to introduce the expression, for example, 'Aussie Law.' In Australia, there are Solicitors and Barristers (some of them are Senior Counsel or Queens Counsel.) All now fall within the general term "Lawyer," even though all of them signed either the "Roll of Solicitors" or the "Roll of Barristers." The general difference between Solicitor and Barrister is similar to GP and Specialist, although many Solicitors, including myself, undertook as our main interest appearing in all Courts. An oddity is that no matter whether you chose to be a Solicitor or a Barrister, you had exactly the same qualifications at the time of admission, a Bachelor of Law degree. If you became a Solicitor, that usually meant you were a 'jack of all trades,' and if you elected to be a Barrister, inevitably, you developed a special interest in a narrow area of Law, and accepted work only in that area. Gillard was/is a Solicitor.

[Neferti]

I apologise, Mantra. However, you were calling me names that you got off Monk, who knows absolutely nothing about me or my lifestyle, and I got very annoyed, so I reacted by calling you the worst I could think of at the time. Sorry.

By the by, those who have Foxtel,there is an interesting program on the Crime Channel on Thursday 22 November at 8.30 called "The anti-social Network". All about "abuse" online, forums, etc. I have it "booked" to record/watch.

As far as "lawyers" are concerned, it is a term that has become popular since we now follow American TV and the kids even spell the American way now ... I even saw an Aussie journalist write "check" instead of "cheque" today .......

The term "solicitor" actually has some unsavoury connotations and Yogi was pretty spot on. I saw it defined as "door knockers" (that would include the Mormons). I haven't looked to see what people with a Degree in Law are called in the UK. Trying to recall what Rumpole referred to them as.

[Neferti]

Haven't we had enough of badmouthing members and their families? It's a pathetic way to try and score points.

Aussie defined lawyer a page or so ago, but they were all called solicitors here a few years back as Neferti said. Calling them lawyers is irritating. Do the English call them lawyers?

Not that I am aware of. The term 'lawyer' is an Americanism, and as far back as the 1980s, some Queensland Firms began to introduce the expression, for example, 'Aussie Law.' In Australia, there are Solicitors and Barristers (some of them are Senior Counsel or Queens Counsel.) All now fall within the general term "Lawyer," even though all of them signed either the "Roll of Solicitors" or the "Roll of Barristers." The general difference between Solicitor and Barrister is similar to GP and Specialist, although many Solicitors, including myself, undertook as our main interest appearing in all Courts. An oddity is that no matter whether you chose to be a Solicitor or a Barrister, you had exactly the same qualifications at the time of admission, a Bachelor of Law degree. If you became a Solicitor, that usually meant you were a 'jack of all trades,' and if you elected to be a Barrister, inevitably, you developed a special interest in a narrow area of Law, and accepted work only in that area. Gillard was/is a Solicitor.

Right! So, Aussie, I have removed you from my "foe list" a this has become a serious discussion! LEGAL and I know a bit about the topic!

You are saying almost exactly as I said. Why didn't you acknowledge the fact?

I don't usually go off "half-cocked" without a least some knowledge of the subject. If I need more I "research" as I do not like to be proved wrong. OK?

Correct. Gillard was a Solicitor. In Melbourne. Pre the 1996 change. Read my link to the Victorian Institute of Law.

I very much doubt that she still holds a "Certificate to Practise" ... perhaps when she loses the Election she can go back and give "good advice" to Union Officials?

[Aussie]

The 1996 Act in Victoria retained the distinction between Solicitor and Barrister.

I no longer hold a current Practicising Certificate, as I retired from Law years ago. Neither would Gillard...........why pay more than $10,000.00* for a document you have no need of.

(*Whatever the current annual fee is..............I dunno......but it will not be peanuts.)

[Neferti]

The 1996 Act in Victoria retained the distinction between Solicitor and Barrister.

The Act changed in 2004 and again in 2008. I even gave you the Law Institute of Victoria link. Want it again?

Law in Qld is different to Law in Victoria where Gillard practised .... get your head around it, mate!

So, since you no longer have a Practising Certificate you can, in fact, now call yourself a lawyer. One with an LLB.

[Aussie]

The 1996 Act in Victoria retained the distinction between Solicitor and Barrister.

The Act changed in 2004 and again in 2008. I even gave you the Law Institute of Victoria link. Want it again?

Law in Qld is different to Law in Victoria where Gillard practised .... get your head around it, mate!

Are you telling me that the 2004 and 2008 amendments removed references to the terms 'Solicitor' and 'Barrister.'



Pssst, Naffy......stop trying to fuck with me on these matters. You have no idea.

[Neferti]

The 1996 Act in Victoria retained the distinction between Solicitor and Barrister.

The Act changed in 2004 and again in 2008. I even gave you the Law Institute of Victoria link. Want it again?

Law in Qld is different to Law in Victoria where Gillard practised .... get your head around it, mate!

Are you telling me that the 2004 and 2008 amendments removed references to the terms 'Solicitor' and 'Barrister.'



Pssst, Naffy......stop trying to fuck with me on these matters. You have no idea.

Don't ask me to do your research, Aussie. I gave you the link to the Victorian Institute of Law.

It mentions that the "definitions of titles" changed in 2004 and again in 2008. Look it UP, or remain like a Queenslander where the heat affects the brain function.

[mantra]

I apologise, Mantra. However, you were calling me names that you got off Monk, who knows absolutely nothing about me or my lifestyle, and I got very annoyed, so I reacted by calling you the worst I could think of at the time. Sorry.

No problems Neferti. Forgotten it already.

I worked for solicitors for years when I was a teenager and Aussie is so much a solicitor from the old school. They are hard task masters and many of them are corrupt, although I'm not saying Aussie falls into that category.

Once a solicitor is qualified - he can't automatically become a barrister. Barristers have to do a bar practice course and sit for a bar exam. They also command about ten times the fee a solicitor does. Great job.