Islamist extremists seize hostages in central Sydney

[Rorschach]

For once Nato I agree with you--the Koran is not being used nor followed in the way Allah taught- they have manipulated the msg the Koran teaches for their own nepaharious purposes over the eons since.. the Koran in essence has been twisted to mean and endorse everything bad...the Koran did not condone violence and disrespect of women and children for instance in its original form-- nor any of the atrocities committed in its name over time.. Muslim's religion and it's teachings have been manipulated for purposes of control over womenand for the purposes of gruetitous violence by evil mysoginistic animal who try to call themselves respected men. The Koran is a book that has been changed and contaminated to mean something else entirely to underpin evil and corruption.

I know someone who has a copy of the original teaching's..he is not a Muslim.

Just so you know... The Koran hasn't been changed. In fact it is forbidden to change it. It's very reason for existence is supposed to be because the Bible has been changed... it is immutable.
To change the Koran is to change Islam and it is strictly forbidden.
BTW Allah didn't teach anyone.

Mohammed was given the word by some shadowy figure in a dark dingy cave... go figure.

[mellie]

I say Christian because I was raised with Christian values and so I identify myself as Christian.

I dont attend church often, (have not attended church for years), though when push comes to shove, and hard times are upon me, I find myself asking for gods advice/help.

Does this mean I am a Christian?

Yes, obviously... however does this mean I am a Christian extremist or terrorist?


Hardly.

Same applies to moderate those of other faiths, be they Jewish or Muslim.

You are a dickhead, what happened hundreds of years ago means fuck all to these shitbags and their shitbag religion...who are you hot breath, brian ross or one of the other apologist fucks. Bottom line is the religion and its followers are no good and have not contributed positively to any western country they have become entrenched in, keep polishing your turds .

I was having a discussion about this with a friend this morning, and whilst I think we need to curb Muslim immigration (we have enough here already) there are some decent Muslims out there, particularly those who are educated, ie, are Doctors and professionals etc.
The problem seems to stem from those who are socio-economically disadvantaged.

I am far from an apologist, I just can't see the point in tarring them all with the same "extremist" brush given they are already here and really need to integrate into our western society in order for this to work.

Would you want to integrate into a society you though hated you?
The young ones coming up are reading the rants from dickheads like yourself who don't give them much reason to want to assimilate, much less the time of day.

You are of the view that all of them should be condemned, ostracised, branded potential terrorists which reinforces the extremists paranoid antisocial view that there is them, and there is us.

The damage is done, they are here, we now need to make the best of it.

[mellie]

For once Nato I agree with you--the Koran is not being used nor followed in the way Allah taught- they have manipulated the msg the Koran teaches for their own nepaharious purposes over the eons since.. the Koran in essence has been twisted to mean and endorse everything bad...the Koran did not condone violence and disrespect of women and children for instance in its original form-- nor any of the atrocities committed in its name over time.. Muslim's religion and it's teachings have been manipulated for purposes of control over womenand for the purposes of gruetitous violence by evil mysoginistic animal who try to call themselves respected men. The Koran is a book that has been changed and contaminated to mean something else entirely to underpin evil and corruption.

I know someone who has a copy of the original teaching's..he is not a Muslim.

Just so you know... The Koran hasn't been changed. In fact it is forbidden to change it. It's very reason for existence is supposed to be because the Bible has been changed... it is immutable.
To change the Koran is to change Islam and it is strictly forbidden.
BTW Allah didn't teach anyone.

Mohammed was given the word by some shadowy figure in a dark dingy cave... go figure.

Not unlike christianity, how God didnt teach anyone, rather Jesus was given the word from his father, God.

Parallels noted.

[Black Orchid]

The young ones coming up are reading the rants from dickheads like yourself who don't give them much reason to want to assimilate, much less the time of day.

People who come to this country for a better life will usually start to assimilate upon arrival. They will adopt western values, enrol their children in western schools, learn the language and generally try to adopt the social values of their adoptive country, as did the Italians and Greeks etc before them. I doubt they trawl through online forums looking for negative rants and the media in general is very sympathetic towards them so they will find little negativity there.

The path of the young ones has already been set by the parents.

[mellie]

The NSW Police are denying Man Haron Monis had a firearms licence despite early claims from Abbott that he did.

I find this strange, and doubt Abbott would have got something like this wrong.

Your thoughts?

[skippy]

It has nothing to do with Islam 's teachings.

Islam's teachings are wide open to interpretation.

And you don't need to be certified or educated to be an islamic religious teacher.

You don't need to be certified or educated to be a Christian religious teacher either.

[mellie]

Re- Firearms licence.... I find this odd.

NSW police say they have no records of Martin Place siege gunman Man Haron Monis ever holding a gun licence.

This is despite the Prime Minister Tony Abbott asserting in a press conference earlier that Monis, killed by police in a gun battle after a 16-hour siege, had been allowed to legally own weapons.

"The NSW Police Force has conducted checks with the NSW Firearms Registry and can confirm there is no record of the 50-year-old man having held a firearms licence," a statement issued this evening said.

Mr Abbott's office later issued a statement saying the Prime Minister had been told during national security briefings by "Commonwealth security officials" that Monis had been a recorded firearms licence holder in NSW.

The information came from the National Police Reference System, a database at CrimTrac - the national agency that holds all state and territory and police records.

"The AFP Commissioner is investigating the origins of the entry on the National Police Reference System," the statement from Mr Abbott's office said.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege- ... 29bg7.html

I get the feeling someone is trying to cover something up.

[mellie]

Lets name the elephant in the room, the judge who failed to implement the necessary laws required to prevent Monis from being let out on bail.

This judge has two decent young Australians blood on their hands.

Who are they?

Who was the magistrate who granted Man Haron Monis bail for 40 sexual assault charges and accessory to murder?

Whats their name?

Court magistrate Bill Pearce granted Monis bail.

[mellie]

Who were the magistrates who granted Man Haron Monis bail for 40 sexual assault charges and accessory to murder?



Both court magistrate Bill Pearce and Magistrate Joan Baptie granted Monis bail.

Magistrate Bill Pearce granted him bail for the accessory to Murder charges at Penrith Court House, and Joan Baptie granted him bail for the 40 sexual assault charges at Parramatta Court House..

Now let the judges be judged.

[mellie]

Our socialist lefty Magistrate Joan of Arc seems to be quite sympathetic to refugees in general.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/b ... 6831771995