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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by mantra » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:28 pm

Rorschach wrote::roll: :roll: :roll:
See what I mean... sigh... :du

You really are a fool.

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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:30 pm

mantra wrote:
IQS.RLOW wrote:No mining tax is not the same as not paying 'any' tax.
I know that. The issue we were discussing was Rudd's mining tax.
Then why did you say this?
Abbott is pro-mining and doesn't believe they should pay any tax.
Did your Dishonesty gene get over ridden by the stupid lefty gene or did the stupid lefty gene get over ridden by the dishonesty gene?
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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by mantra » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:32 pm

You're doing a Roach now are you IQ and being petty and pedantic? Go play with each other. Neither of you could make a decent post if your lives depended on it.

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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:40 pm

All it takes is for you to say "I didn't mean Tony Abbott wants them to pay no tax, I was only referring to the mining tax-my apologies. I didn't mean to mislead anyone"

...unless of course you did mean to mislead? :huh?
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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by mantra » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:47 pm

You and Roach are incapable of reading a post in context. Just grab onto a one liner and run with it. You're a couple of goons and there's no point debating anything political with either of you. It's a waste of time. Both of you just drive everyone off here.
mantra's original post wrote:Gillard shouldn't have changed Rudd's original mining tax to a lesser one. We're getting nothing from the current tax, yet would have done very well if Labor had weathered the storm which always happens after a tax is introduced.

Mining is everywhere now and the state Liberals have sacrificed health and the environment to allow mining encroachment into well populated areas. Abbott is pro-mining and doesn't believe they should pay any tax.

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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:52 pm

So you did or didn't mean to mislead?

But while you are reposting your lies...
Mining is everywhere now and the state Liberals have sacrificed health and the environment to allow mining encroachment into well populated areas.
Do you have any evidence of this, or is it another faulty lefty gene that needs to be studied?
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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by Rorschach » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:28 pm

Insult and Flame away mantra... and you wonder why people give it back to you.
I've been trying to discuss things with you factually and without returning fire.

As you said the States were/are involved.

States have mining royalties... Rudd and Gillard's taxes churned mining company profits and State Royalties. The Rudd mining tax was the resource super profits tax, or RSPT. It was designed to replace the array of royalties that mining companies paid to the states. Any profit made by mining companies that was above 6% of their capital investment would have been taxed at 40%, and all royalties presently paid to the states would be rebated. Gillard's tax the MRRT changed the parameters.

The Coalition policy is to remove the MRRT not the State taxes. Miners will still be taxed. It will restore back to the status quo and end the unnecessary churn and rebate. Miners will still pay tax under a Coalition government, just not the extra federal tax and the federal government will not have to compensate by rebate the miners for the state royalties. State royalties will revert to past practices.

Now where in all that did Abbott say that miners should not pay any tax?


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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by mantra » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:22 pm

Rorschach wrote:Insult and Flame away mantra... and you wonder why people give it back to you.
I've been trying to discuss things with you factually and without returning fire.
Until this last post of yours - you have discussed nothing factual - just your usual moron and :rofl :rofl :rofl responses.
As you said the States were/are involved.
Didn't I provide a link this morning to the new legislation that the NSW state liberals have drawn up in order to over-ride the Land and Environmental Court?
States have mining royalties... Rudd and Gillard's taxes churned mining company profits and State Royalties. The Rudd mining tax was the resource super profits tax, or RSPT. It was designed to replace the array of royalties that mining companies paid to the states. Any profit made by mining companies that was above 6% of their capital investment would have been taxed at 40%, and all royalties presently paid to the states would be rebated. Gillard's tax the MRRT changed the parameters.

The Coalition policy is to remove the MRRT not the State taxes. Miners will still be taxed. It will restore back to the status quo and end the unnecessary churn and rebate. Miners will still pay tax under a Coalition government, just not the extra federal tax and the federal government will not have to compensate by rebate the miners for the state royalties. State royalties will revert to past practices.

Now where in all that did Abbott say that miners should not pay any tax?
Where did I say that the miners should not pay tax. Again you've taken me out of context when it was obvious I was discussing the mining companies and had made specific reference to Rudd's mining tax which Gillard reduced to an ineffective tax.
Would have been so much easier if you just admitted you lied in the first place.
To quote one of your favourite insults...once again for the dummy and straight from the Liberals' website.

QUESTION:

Do you still commit to getting rid of both taxes if you win office and, I mean, how are you going to do that? Surely it’s going to be extremely hard because they’re so tied up.

TONY ABBOTT:

Well, we are absolutely 100 per cent committed to repealing the carbon tax and the mining tax.

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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by Rorschach » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:05 pm

Honestly
You need to go back and start again.
1/ I haven't used the word moron once... that is a lie. Considering all the posts with insults from you you're lucky I haven't been more like you.
2/ You said we were discussing Rudd's tax... yet you now post stuff re recent state lib laws.
3/ I have been factual and accurate... I have been posting your words... one's you first tried to ignore then kept insulting me rather than address.
4/ I have not insulted or flamed you directly in spite of this behaviour from you.
Where did I say that the miners should not pay tax. Again you've taken me out of context when it was obvious I was discussing the mining companies and had made specific reference to Rudd's mining tax which Gillard reduced to an ineffective tax.
5/ I didn't say YOU said miners should not pay tax... that is another lie. I quoted you. How many times do I have to repost your words?
Abbott is pro-mining and doesn't believe they should pay any tax.
Now those are your words.
So how about you post something factual that backs them up.
We already know he is going to repeal both the carbon tax and the mrrt.
But we also know the miners will still be paying tax and we know Abbott is not against that. You however say he is... so time to prove it.
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Re: Labor ahead in polls

Post by skippy » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:27 pm

You have evidence Abbott is anti mining do you boofster? Want to Post that up?

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