Hyperbole and one-upmanship

[mantra.]

Back in the kitchen dear while the men discuss the real world

Ooh - which nasty little troll are you?

which are??

They want the anti-terrorism laws reviewed, more investment in renewable technology and they've done nothing about workchoices for a start - although this probably isn't the right climate to make too many changes.

[Jubial Priest]

Ooh - which nasty little troll are you?

Is everyone that decides to tell you that you are wrong suddenly your 'IQ' bogeyman?

But you seem to forget that the "loonies" that are now inhabiting the left - were once the rabid whingers from the right.

Ok. Humour me and left me know which loony lefties who have always espoused the loony lefty line were converts from the right.

[mantra.]

Is everyone that decides to tell you that you are wrong suddenly your 'IQ' bogeyman?

Is that what you were telling me? Sorry - your language is alien to me. Perhaps you could tell me where I was wrong, but then you probably don't know yourself.

Ok. Humour me and left me know which loony lefties who have always espoused the loony lefty line were converts from the right.

Obviously those who voted for Howard in election 1, 2, 3 and 4 - but chose Rudd the last time around. I can't see the Liberals in power - can you?

[Jubial Priest]

I thought that you deciding that the 'loony left' that I was referring to were suddenly 'swinging voters' as you have just indicated would be enough to tell you that your cluelessness has you chasing your tail

Obviously those who voted for Howard in election 1, 2, 3 and 4 - but chose Rudd the last time around.

It is obvious to anyone with a brain that they are not the 'loony left'. They are but easily led fools who have succumbed to a guilt trip.

It's understandable of course. These things happen when prosperity reigns for so long. People feel bad for having it so good for so long.

The downside is that the whole of society will suffer for the guilt trip of a minority of swing voters fed garbage by the loony left.

[mantra.]

Howard brought this on himself. He overstayed his welcome and then missed the boat. If he had done the right thing and handed the reins to Costello when he indicated he would - you whinging liberals wouldn't be carrying on the way you are. You'd probably have PM Lily Liver to worship instead.

[Jubial Priest]

*Sigh*
Another loony lefty that can't let go of the Howard era. Perhaps try addressing the points rather than falling back on your old adage. You can't blame Howard forever. It's probably best that you start coming up for new excuses for the lame performance of this government.

How about lets look at the Rudd govt empty promises on a matter close to any loony lefties heart- whaling.

Despite all the promises, rhetoric and extra waste of tax payer monies spent- just what exactly have they achieved? Is it nothing but an exact replica of what the Howard govt had minus the extravagant and pompous spending to show a pathetic 'local muscle flexing' pantomime to placate the idiots who voted for them on this issue?

How will you blame Howard for this governments ineptness despite being a key political differential displayed by Rudd in the election period?
Were you suckered?
Many would say yes

[boxy]

can't let go of the Howard era

Ummm, this thread was started because Howard decided to get involved again.

Perhaps it's little Johnie that can't let go. Must have been quite a shock, going from "best PM evah", to one of the very few incumbent PM's to ever loose their own seat at a landslide election that set the party back a decade... and all because he personally wanted 'just one more term'

[Jubial Priest]

History will still judge him as being one of the best PM's that Australia has ever had despite the protestations of the 'comfortably well off guilt ridden swinging voters'

From a populartistic view, he might have over stayed his welcome but from a performance view, he was probably put out to pasture 5 years too early considering the current global state of affairs.

I am sure even you can agree that Kevin's 8000 word essay is nothing but trying to bolster his own position in a uneasy market.From proclaiming himself as an economic conservative to claiming social democrat status is quite a big swing, wouldn't you agree?

Just what does he stand for? Perhaps Nazism if it moves with the times and gains him the popular vote? Who knows?

[boxy]

In Australia, supporting social democracy is being an economic conservative. A social democrat support a mixed economy which includes a free market, which is regulated, where needed, by government to ensure that social justice principles are not ignored due to the application of pure market forces. This perfectly describes what Australia is, and has been for a very long time, a centre left country.

[mantra.]

A social democrat support a mixed economy which includes a free market, which is regulated, where needed, by government to ensure that social justice principles are not ignored due to the application of pure market forces. This perfectly describes what Australia is, and has been for a very long time, a centre left country.

We should have been, but I don't think that there has been much regulation in our free market, nor too many social justice principles over the last decade or so. The Australian people appear to want a return to this and many believe Rudd can achieve an egalitarian society and moderately regulated market. This economic crisis can help steer us towards this ideology, but who knows if Rudd will be able to follow through.

Unfortunately his strings are being pulled by the same powers that pulled Howards - only Howard was a lot more compliant. Rudd may have genuine ultruistic motives as leader of this country, but the global big boys probably have a different agenda. Time will tell.