You tell them whatever you like, and not one iota of the product is admissible as evidence in a Trial where you are the accused.boxy wrote:What happens when they ask you where you buried the bodies, Aussie? Arn't the coppers alowed to go digging?Ned Kelly wrote:What you bush lawyers have failed to notice is that these blokes were refusing to answer, not questions put to them by Coppers at the Local Cop Shop, rather, questions put to them at a Commission of Inquiry which normally has the same powers of a Royal Commission where there is no right to refuse.
However, that is balanced up because there will also be a provision which says that nothing you say to a Commission may be used in any other proceedings taken against you.
So, they can force you to blurt, but they can do nothing with the information other than make some esoteric Report usually of only political usefulness.
Right to remain silent
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Re: Right to remain silent
Re: Right to remain silent
Well my experience with coppers in recent years is every time I've had to deal with them in any way, they always either lie to me, lie about me, or both. So from now on I will/would say nothing and refuse an interview, thus giving them no opportunity to say I said something I did not say. All they can do then is claim that I was uncooperative.
6 years ago when facing assault charges for putting a home invader in Gin Gin hospital, I put the cop who layed the charges [same character who was run out of Mt Perry for involvement in stock theft] on the stand at my committal hearing ...
[His sargeant told the property owner and myself that there is no such charge as home invasion in Queensland, which I discovered a week later to be complete bull$#!+]
Me - "Cuntstable Xxxx, would you agree that removal of blood from the woodgrain of an implement like a mattock handle would be virtually impossible?"
Cop - "That's correct."
Me - "And in your witness statement, which I have a copy of here, you have stated there was blood on the mattock handle."
Cop - "That's correct."
Me - "Are you normally prone to hallucinations?"
Police prosecutor jumps up - "I object, I object to this line of questioning."
District court magistrate waffles - "Yes I'd like to know where this is leading."
Me - "Well I've just illustrated that Cuntstable Xxxx has made false claims in his witness statement and so therefor is not a credible witness."
That cop has despised me ever since. Despite making a fool of him and proving him a liar in court I was still committed to trial. And I got to see how easy it was for National Party members to corrupt everybody and every part of the trial against a Greens member in a Labor administered state.
Why bother you ask? .. Because it was an election year and the owner of the invaded dwelling was a Greens candidate while the Nationals candidate was a former Qld police sargeant, who is now our local state MP.
The cops were corrupt, the DPP lawyers brought up from Maroochydore were corrupt, the barrister I got for the trial became so pathetic I assume he was bought off, and the district court magistrate was so irrational in the face of an audio recording I made of the incident on a voice activated tape recorder proving what I said to be true, that she was also either bought off or also a Nationals party member like most of the old cops around here.
I was convicted and did 180 hours of community service.
2 years ago I ran 2 junkies off the farm we worked on after they stole from me. The boss was so happy he let me move from a 30 ft caravan on the farm to a 3 bedroom house.
In the meantime the junkies had complained to police that I was growing marajuana on the farm (not true, I was actually guerilla farming up the road). When I got raided the jacks were looking for dope plants and found none, but did find a Ruger 10/22 with a Gold Star silencer loaded with sub-sonic rounds.
I agreed to be interviewed and at no stage lied to the cop laying the charges. I either answered him truthfully or refused to answer depending on the question. He asked where I bought it from, how much I paid, and who I bought it from.
I told him "I bought it in Queensland in 1998 for $500" and refused to say who I obtained it from.
Then when it went to court the prosecutor reading from the cop's witness statement claimed I had said that I'd brought up from NSW about 5 years ago.
I interrupted the prosecutor with "That's incorrect" then let her finish their story.
Fortunately the magistrate seemed to like my blunt honesty when given an opportunity to explain myself.
Me - "It was illegal, I knew it was illegal, and yeh I was shooting the rats, so I'll just have to cop it sweet".
I was fined $700.
When I got home, the police had broken into my house, and continued to do so on a semi regular basis for nearly a year.
I set steel jaw traps for them, made no difference. I made veiled threats of retaliation, made no difference. I went around to all the police stations in the area and photographed all their own personal vehicles, then put the photos up in my lounge room with a warning that 'house breakers collegues are legit targets because they're from the same extortion gang', made no difference.
Then I learnt of 2 other people who's homes were also broken into on a semi regular basis by police. Turns out Gin Gin cops have been doing it for years before the Qld govt made it legal for them to do so under secret warrant provisions.
When I'd go into Bundy I'd be followed around on foot by characters in white shirts, or by confiscated drug dealers cars.
One mate didn't believe me untill we evaded them and he saw the white shirts desperately searching.
One day I was having a haircut when a character I suspected was a cop came in and seemed to listen intently.
When I told the barber/hairdresser that the cops break into my house, she asked "What, who does?"
I replied "Gin Gin police. They break into my house roughly every 2 weeks. But that's OK, coz I've bought a spy camera for $200 and I'm going to put their faces on the internet when I do a piece about how Queensland police are house breakers".
The break ins stopped immediately.
I am now swaying to the idea that the only way to reduce actual crime is to abolish the police, the DPP, and maybe the judiciary as well. In fact as a now apolitical anarchist (not an extreme lefty protestor) I'm forming the opinion that we may as well abolish government altogether.
During a recent argument with a 10 year associate, he said "You've changed, once upon a time you cared"
I replied "So be it, why should I care? .. I'm sick of caring. As far as I'm concerned the whole world can get fucked"
6 years ago when facing assault charges for putting a home invader in Gin Gin hospital, I put the cop who layed the charges [same character who was run out of Mt Perry for involvement in stock theft] on the stand at my committal hearing ...
[His sargeant told the property owner and myself that there is no such charge as home invasion in Queensland, which I discovered a week later to be complete bull$#!+]
Me - "Cuntstable Xxxx, would you agree that removal of blood from the woodgrain of an implement like a mattock handle would be virtually impossible?"
Cop - "That's correct."
Me - "And in your witness statement, which I have a copy of here, you have stated there was blood on the mattock handle."
Cop - "That's correct."
Me - "Are you normally prone to hallucinations?"
Police prosecutor jumps up - "I object, I object to this line of questioning."
District court magistrate waffles - "Yes I'd like to know where this is leading."
Me - "Well I've just illustrated that Cuntstable Xxxx has made false claims in his witness statement and so therefor is not a credible witness."
That cop has despised me ever since. Despite making a fool of him and proving him a liar in court I was still committed to trial. And I got to see how easy it was for National Party members to corrupt everybody and every part of the trial against a Greens member in a Labor administered state.
Why bother you ask? .. Because it was an election year and the owner of the invaded dwelling was a Greens candidate while the Nationals candidate was a former Qld police sargeant, who is now our local state MP.
The cops were corrupt, the DPP lawyers brought up from Maroochydore were corrupt, the barrister I got for the trial became so pathetic I assume he was bought off, and the district court magistrate was so irrational in the face of an audio recording I made of the incident on a voice activated tape recorder proving what I said to be true, that she was also either bought off or also a Nationals party member like most of the old cops around here.
I was convicted and did 180 hours of community service.
2 years ago I ran 2 junkies off the farm we worked on after they stole from me. The boss was so happy he let me move from a 30 ft caravan on the farm to a 3 bedroom house.
In the meantime the junkies had complained to police that I was growing marajuana on the farm (not true, I was actually guerilla farming up the road). When I got raided the jacks were looking for dope plants and found none, but did find a Ruger 10/22 with a Gold Star silencer loaded with sub-sonic rounds.
I agreed to be interviewed and at no stage lied to the cop laying the charges. I either answered him truthfully or refused to answer depending on the question. He asked where I bought it from, how much I paid, and who I bought it from.
I told him "I bought it in Queensland in 1998 for $500" and refused to say who I obtained it from.
Then when it went to court the prosecutor reading from the cop's witness statement claimed I had said that I'd brought up from NSW about 5 years ago.
I interrupted the prosecutor with "That's incorrect" then let her finish their story.
Fortunately the magistrate seemed to like my blunt honesty when given an opportunity to explain myself.
Me - "It was illegal, I knew it was illegal, and yeh I was shooting the rats, so I'll just have to cop it sweet".
I was fined $700.
When I got home, the police had broken into my house, and continued to do so on a semi regular basis for nearly a year.
I set steel jaw traps for them, made no difference. I made veiled threats of retaliation, made no difference. I went around to all the police stations in the area and photographed all their own personal vehicles, then put the photos up in my lounge room with a warning that 'house breakers collegues are legit targets because they're from the same extortion gang', made no difference.
Then I learnt of 2 other people who's homes were also broken into on a semi regular basis by police. Turns out Gin Gin cops have been doing it for years before the Qld govt made it legal for them to do so under secret warrant provisions.
When I'd go into Bundy I'd be followed around on foot by characters in white shirts, or by confiscated drug dealers cars.
One mate didn't believe me untill we evaded them and he saw the white shirts desperately searching.
One day I was having a haircut when a character I suspected was a cop came in and seemed to listen intently.
When I told the barber/hairdresser that the cops break into my house, she asked "What, who does?"
I replied "Gin Gin police. They break into my house roughly every 2 weeks. But that's OK, coz I've bought a spy camera for $200 and I'm going to put their faces on the internet when I do a piece about how Queensland police are house breakers".
The break ins stopped immediately.
I am now swaying to the idea that the only way to reduce actual crime is to abolish the police, the DPP, and maybe the judiciary as well. In fact as a now apolitical anarchist (not an extreme lefty protestor) I'm forming the opinion that we may as well abolish government altogether.
During a recent argument with a 10 year associate, he said "You've changed, once upon a time you cared"
I replied "So be it, why should I care? .. I'm sick of caring. As far as I'm concerned the whole world can get fucked"
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Re: Right to remain silent
Old and weak people will be bashed in the streets and robbed and vehicles will drive as fast and carelessly as they want crushing children and objects in their path. We'll all be broke because armed bandits will have stolen all the cash from the banks and shops - in fact we won't need cash - we can just steal what we need until everything runs out.I am now swaying to the idea that the only way to reduce actual crime is to abolish the police, the DPP, and maybe the judiciary as well. In fact as a now apolitical anarchist (not an extreme lefty protestor) I'm forming the opinion that we may as well abolish government altogether.
Half the population will end up being murdered and it will be the survival of the toughest only.
It might be a pleasant thought not to have any controls, but it's not very practical.
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I think the true outcome would be somewhere in the middle, Mantra. Regardless of the rule of law, the great majority of people still believe in "justice", and if needed, would be willing to enforce a measure of it themselves.
"But you will run your fluffy bunny mouth at me. And I will take it, to play poker."
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I wave my right to remain silent and exercise my right to fucking be a loud mouth asshole who pisses you all off but still likes you.
That would have been in the US Constitution but George, Wooden Teeth, Washington vetoed it on the grounds he was the silent type.
That would have been in the US Constitution but George, Wooden Teeth, Washington vetoed it on the grounds he was the silent type.
Re: Right to remain silent
Cat ordered to court for jury duty
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/of ... -jury-duty
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/of ... -jury-duty
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"When they ask him guilty or not guilty? What's he supposed to say - meow?"

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What's the betting that this moron filled out the census form wrong?Ethnic wrote:"When they ask him guilty or not guilty? What's he supposed to say - meow?"
And since when do they ask for your pets name on census forms? FFS... don't we have better things to do with our stat crunching puters, than to compile a detailed database of national pet names?

"But you will run your fluffy bunny mouth at me. And I will take it, to play poker."
Re: Right to remain silent
Probably right, the story says ..
Owner Anna Esposito said she had told authorities that Sal could not speak or understand English. The cat's vet had even written a letter explaining that Sal was a "domestic short-haired neutered feline".
"Sal is a member of the family so I listed him on the last census form under pets, but there has clearly been a mix-up," Mrs Esposito said.
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