The Stolen Generations

[Valkie]

True self determination requires a drive to advance themselves.

The single largest hurdle with the abbos, is that they have no drive.

Preferring to sit on their collective arses and hold out their hands.

Sooner or later, the tit will run dry
Australia cannot continue to hand out billions of dollars to a lazy group of no hopers.
As their numbers grow, with more and more people calling themselves abbo for the benifits that brings, the larger the burden on those of us working and paying taxes.
Australia has pathetic infrastructure, in desperate need of update and generation.
Our hospital system is also in dire need
As are the schools and many other essential services that other first world countries have.

By wasting money, throwing billions at a lazy greedy sub section of our society, we are not getting the things we pay exorbitant taxes for.
Think of how much good 30 billion could do for our schools, hospitals and essential services.
But this, and many billions more that is hidden, is wasted.
Being literally pissed up the wall by a group who while taking from us with one hand , give us the finger with the other.
We are insulted, called murderers, reviled, for what?
For something done many years ago in a different time.

What about the race tgat the abbos wiped out
Why are they not taken to task over that genocide?

The time will come when the people of Australia say "enough is enough"
We cannot continue to fund dead end altruism
200 years is plenty of time to assimilate.
Either assimilate or go back to your primitive way, on the land you have been given and which you deny the right of others to enter
Who are the RACISTS here
Those that give and give even while copping the vitriol and insults?

Or those that woukd deny others entry onto their land because we are different?

[Bogan]

Anybody reading this exchange between myself and Brian Ross, please note the way in which Brian replied? It is positive proof that Brian Ross has no intention of debating a subject on it's merits. His aim to stifle debate, and his tactics are clearly on display.

The subject under discussion is to whether the "stolen generations" ever existed? I have written a 2,993 word article which proves that the stolen generations were simply a fabrication. Of that, 1970 words were direct argument, and 1023 words were quotes from a variety of sources, inserted in ways that validated whatever premise I was arguing at the time.

Brian Ross replies by not even addressing the topic under discussion at all. Instead he seizes upon one single aspect of the many points I made, which he thinks he can get some mileage out of. Brian writes 166 words on the "Bringing them Home" report and finishes his post with a 19 word, sneery one liner. Total number of words written on the topic under discussion 0. Total words written on his red herring misdirection, 185.

Brian then just cuts and pasts 2,745 words that he found somewhere on the "Bringing Them Home" report, which is a minor point only tengetically related to the topic under discussion. Brian did not submit a reasoned argument explaining why the he thinks that the "stolen generations" charge is valid, because he himself knows that it is complete crap. He might have attacked some of the points I made and suggested an alternate view, which might have won him a few points, but he is too intimidated by my post to even attempt that. Lastly, he did not use cut and pastes as evidence to back up any premises supporting his view that the "stolen generations" charge is valid. Instead, he cut and paste 2,745 words AS his argument on a single point I made in my submission.

His entire post is a giant red herring deliberately intended to lure his opponent way from what he dos not want discussed.

Therefore. I think that you will conclude that I have proven Brian Ross to be a very clever troll, more interested in stifling debate on issues he does not want discussed than ever debating a subject on it's merits.

Lastly, we have to ask ourselves why Brian does not want to talk about the validity of the so called "stolen generations"? Well, for one thing, he himself knows it is complete BS. So then we have to ask ourselves, why is Brian pushing a position which he knows is false? That's where things get interesting.

I maintain that Brian Ross is in thrall to socialist humanitarian philosophy which puts forward the crazy idea that all races are equal. With aboriginal people proving that premise wrong by their dysfunctional behaviour every day, which is indicative of a race of people with very low collective intelligence, he and his comrades need to find a way to explain aboriginal dysfunction without acknowledging that their ideology is fundamentally flawed.

That is why Brian is so desperate to blame whitey for aboriginal dysfunction, and the so called "stolen generations" is a key part of that blame game. Another, is that Brian Ross is a public servant, and if you want to really understand who the bad guys are when it comes to aboriginal dysfunction, you do what the police do with every criminal investigation. Follow the money.

Australia spends an incredible $33 billion dollars on aboriginal people with the result that aboriginal "communities" resemble anarchic third world shitholes. As MP Mal Brough once observed about aboriginal communities, "....for what we spend aboriginal people, their streets should be paved with gold."

Somewhere between the treasury and the ordinary aboriginal person living in squalor, an immense amount of money seems to be ending up in somebody's else's pocket. My premise is, that there are many people in the public service who are quite happy with the present arrangement, and the last thing they want is for their pecuniary interests to be examined. Public service bureaucracies and their related "aboriginal only" quangos have a vested interest in continuing to ensure that aborigines are always their dependents. Their championing of aboriginal "causes" and supposed "grievances" is just a mask to hide their self interest.

[cods]

well said bogan..you leave bri bri in the shade very much so...

I honestly believe people like brian want to keep aboriginals in their childlike state

it makes them feel so much better when they can come out and beat their chest with PITY for them..

because thats what is it...lets all feel PITY for bri bri....I wonder how he would be after a few years of people always feeling sorry for him and making him hard done by...poor me poor bri bri....

how bloody down and out would you end up being... and thats what the bleeding heart society does to aboriginals..

keeps them depressed!

dont blame them for 3 yr olds being diagnosed with gonorrhea of course its whiteys fault....anyway it would only be one or two, why make a fuss.. same with drink and drugs..its just a minor problem..

every body knows its the govts fault..

bri likes to BIG NOTE himself..... he certainly has tickets on himself...and almost no one takes any real notice of him...

lucky for this country the majority of people want aboriginals to grow up accept their responsibilities..and become real members of society rather than hangers on always griping and looking for PITY.

[brian ross]

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Bogan and poor Cods. Really? I included a long quote because it made the points for me. I suppose I could have cut and pasted sections but why? Oh, that's right, Bogan can't cope with quotes can he? Tough luck mate.

Cods, you have absolutely no idea why I defend Indigenous people from people like you. You may have forgotten your family's history but Indigenous people haven't. Their history is full of Government paternalism, Government theft of their land, their family, their children. It is full of massacre and attempted genocide. All sanctioned by people like you. Yes, you and your ilk.

[sprintcyclist]

They weren't stolen, they were liberated.

[brian ross]

They weren't stolen, they were liberated.

Liberated from whom? Their rightful parents? Tell me, would you give your kids up to the Government if they came a'callin' for them, Sprint?

[The Reboot]

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Bogan and poor Cods. Really? I included a long quote because it made the points for me. I suppose I could have cut and pasted sections but why? Oh, that's right, Bogan can't cope with quotes can he? Tough luck mate.

Cods, you have absolutely no idea why I defend Indigenous people from people like you. You may have forgotten your family's history but Indigenous people haven't. Their history is full of Government paternalism, Government theft of their land, their family, their children. It is full of massacre and attempted genocide. All sanctioned by people like you. Yes, you and your ilk.

So Cods expresses an opinion contrary to your fucked up mindset and you go on the attack and lump her into a category, blaming her for "theft" and "genocide"? Yeah, fuck off. What you leftard pansies need to realize is that it wasn't the common people that did it -- and yet, somehow, it's the common people who have to pay for this farce. Regardless of the "why" they did what they did, it was the government and it has fuck all to do with the people.

But of course, this is no surprise to me. You are a hypocrite and a fuckwit. And no, that isn't abuse. That's objective fact.

[Valkie]

Ohhhhhh

Bywannnnnnn is really getting worked up

Multiple deary deary he's

And he couldn't even spell racist he is so worked up
You are now less than that.

With his 2345789 doctorates and degrees
His worldly experience from travelling all over the world
His experience as a soldier in no fewer than 4 world wars
And his priesthood

Bwyannnnnnnnn should know
He knows everything

[Black Orchid]

They weren't stolen, they were liberated.

It's pretty easy to imagine where they would, more than likely, be now if they weren't 'liberated'.

[Bogan]

To Brian. The topic under discussion is the validity of the so called "stolen generations." You have yet to post any reasoned argument validating your position that you think the "stolen generations existed. Please write at least a few paragraphs stating why you think that the "stolen generations" actually existed, and also on it's associated charge that successive state and federal governments "stole" aboriginal children in order to commit "genocide" by "breeding out the black."

If you can't, then admit that you don't have a clue about this topic and gracefully withdraw.

If you won't even try, then piss off and try out your dishonest, debate stifling tactics elsewhere.