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Re: Physics to be rewritten

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Climate change denial, or global warming denial, is part of the global warming controversy. It involves denial, dismissal, unwarranted doubt or contrarian views contradicting the scientific opinion on climate change, including the extent to which it is caused by humans, its impacts on nature and human society, or the potential of adaptation to global warming by human actions.[2][3][4] Some deniers do endorse the term, but others often prefer the term climate change skepticism.[3] However several scientists researching this phenomenon have noted that "skepticism" is a misnomer and an inaccurate description when referring to those who deny anthropogenic global warming.[5][6][7] In effect, the two terms form a continuous, overlapping range of views, and generally have the same characteristics: both reject, to a greater or lesser extent, mainstream scientific opinion on climate change.[8][9] Climate change denial can also be implicit, when individuals or social groups accept the science but fail to come to terms with it or to translate their acceptance into action.[10] Several social science studies have analyzed these positions as forms of denialism[8][9] and pseudoscience.[11]

The campaign to undermine public trust in climate science has been described as a "denial machine" organized by industrial, political and ideological interests, and supported by conservative media and skeptical bloggers to manufacture uncertainty about global warming.[12][13][14] In the public debate, phrases such as climate skepticism have frequently been used with the same meaning as climate denialism.[15] The labels are contested: those actively challenging climate science commonly describe themselves as "skeptics", but many do not comply with common standards of scientific skepticism and, regardless of evidence, persistently deny the validity of human caused global warming.[8]
Although scientific opinion on climate change is that human activity is extremely likely to be the primary driver of climate change,[16][17] the politics of global warming have been affected by climate change denial, hindering efforts to prevent climate change and adapt to the warming climate.[18][19][20] Those promoting denial commonly use rhetorical tactics to give the appearance of a scientific controversy where there is none.[21][22]

Of the world's countries, the climate change denial industry is most powerful in the United States.[23][24] From 2015 to 2017 (after having already served from 2003 to 2007), the United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works was chaired by oil lobbyist and climate change denier Jim Inhofe, who had previously called climate change "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated against the American people" and claimed to have debunked the alleged hoax in February 2015 when he brought a snowball with him in the Senate chamber and tossed it across the floor.[25] He was succeeded in 2017 by John Barrasso, who similarly said: "The climate is constantly changing. The role human activity plays is not known."[26] Organised campaigning to undermine public trust in climate science is associated with conservative economic policies and backed by industrial interests opposed to the regulation of CO2 emissions.[27] Climate change denial has been associated with the fossil fuels lobby, the Koch brothers, industry advocates and conservative think tanks, often in the United States.[19][28][29][30] More than 90% of papers sceptical on climate change originate from right-wing think tanks.[31] The total annual income of these climate change counter-movement-organizations is roughly $900 million.[32] Between 2002 and 2010, nearly $120 million (£77 million) was anonymously donated via the Donors Trust and Donors Capital Fund to more than 100 organisations seeking to undermine the public perception of the science on climate change.[33] In 2013 the Center for Media and Democracy reported that the State Policy Network (SPN), an umbrella group of 64 U.S. think tanks, had been lobbying on behalf of major corporations and conservative donors to oppose climate change regulation.[34]

Since the late 1970s, oil companies have published research broadly in line with the standard views on global warming. Despite this, oil companies organized a climate change denial campaign to disseminate public disinformation for several decades, a strategy that has been compared to the organized denial of the hazards of tobacco smoking by tobacco companies
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:30 am

:cry: Oh dear... That you have to resort to wiki, opinion and blogs because you have nothing else to support your Malthusian masturbation only shows how much pain you must be in not being able to regulate people's lives according to the tenets of your faith.

You're in for a long and rough ride, Karl...
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:33 am

This would be cause for most people to relax a little but I suspect SNs tenuous grip on reality let go long ago when his faith and belief decided that grip was better spent on handwringing. :lol:

http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/15/tru ... y-threats/
The Trump administration will reverse course from previous Obama administration policy, eliminating climate change from a list of national security threats. The National Security Strategy to be released on Monday will emphasize the importance of balancing energy security with economic development and environmental protection, according to a source who has seen the document and shared excerpts of a late draft.
During his successful campaign, Trump mocked Obama’s placement of climate change in the context of national security. Here’s a sample of his approach from a campaign speech in Hilton Head, South Carolina, in late 2015:

So Obama’s always talking about the global warming, that global warming is our biggest and most dangerous problem, OK? No, no, think of it. I mean, even if you’re a believer in global warming, ISIS is a big problem, Russia’s a problem, China’s a problem. We’ve got a lot of problems. By the way, the maniac in North Korea is a problem. He actually has nuclear weapons, right? That’s a problem.

We’ve got a lot of problems. We’ve got a lot of problems. That’s right, we don’t win anymore. He said we want to win. We don’t win anymore. We’re going to win a lot — if I get elected, we’re going to win a lot.

(Applause)

We’re going to win so much — we’re going to win a lot. We’re going to win a lot. We’re going to win so much you’re all going to get sick and tired of winning. You’re going to say oh no, not again. I’m only kidding. You never get tired of winning, right? Never.

(Applause)

But think of it. So Obama’s talking about all of this with the global warming and the — a lot of it’s a hoax, it’s a hoax. I mean, it’s a money-making industry, OK? It’s a hoax, a lot of it. And look, I want clean air and I want clean water. That’s my global — I want clean, clean crystal water and I want clean air. And we can do that, but we don’t have to destroy our businesses, we don’t have to destroy our —

And by the way, China isn’t abiding by anything. They’re buying all of our coal; we can’t use coal anymore essentially. They’re buying our coal and they’re using it. Now when you talk about the planet, it’s so big out there — we’re here, they’re there, it’s like they’re our next door neighbor, right, in terms of the universe.
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by Super Nova » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:21 pm

Doing nothing is not acceptable.

Denialist propaganda will go down in history as one of the errors of the 21st Century and you can be proud to be a member of the wrong side of the truth and be responsible for the inaction leading to long term damage.

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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by IQS.RLOW » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:52 pm

Super Nova wrote:Doing nothing is not acceptable.
Of course it is acceptable... except to totalitarian fascist th-eco-crats If you are talking about large scale global regulation by unelected government officials, it is in fact not only preferable, it should be the only option available.

Although it is good to see you dragging out the old favourite and fully exposed rotted equestrian corpse favoured by the useful idiot parrots of climate catastrophists to give it yet another public thrashing. :lol:

You're embarrassing yourself, seriously.
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by Super Nova » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:24 am

IQS.RLOW wrote:
Super Nova wrote:Doing nothing is not acceptable.
Of course it is acceptable... except to totalitarian fascist th-eco-crats If you are talking about large scale global regulation by unelected government officials, it is in fact not only preferable, it should be the only option available.

Although it is good to see you dragging out the old favourite and fully exposed rotted equestrian corpse favoured by the useful idiot parrots of climate catastrophists to give it yet another public thrashing. :lol:

You're embarrassing yourself, seriously.
If you are talking about large scale global regulation by unelected government officials, it is in fact not only preferable, it should be the only option available.

It is the propaganda you denialist use to influence elected government officials who do not understand the issue and want to follow what their constituents want is the problem because you guys have spread untruth to the masses to satisfy short term economic interests and big company interests.

You're are truly an embarrassment to those with half a brain, I know you have one just choose to let ideology stop the other 1/2 from working.

Influencing the public to hind behind what the people want is just part of the programme you guys have engaged in. No place to hide there my friend. Try pulling the other one. It plays jiggle bells in fitting with the time of the year.
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by IQS.RLOW » Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:12 am

Still go nothing eh? :lol:

Get back to me when you've grown out of your chicken little act and unnatural desire to regulate how the world actually works to how you think it should work, but will just become another steaming pile of failed leftists regressiveness. Just because you have bought your own spoon and filled your bowl with it, doesn't mean everyone is as stupid as you. Smiling through your brown stained teeth as it dribbles off your chin and demanding everyone sup from your shit soup will only win over those who are as weak minded as you and believe govts have the ability to fix that which isn't broken at a massive cost.

You really should have an understanding of how the psychology of self interest will always Trump whatever collectivist dribble you spout and the precautionary principle as it applies to economics and society tattooed inside your colon where you will be able to read it regularly.

Sadly, you're so enamoured with slurping down your Marxist shit soup you bought willingly from the "I can't believe it's not choc fudge" chain of leftwing funded inner city franchised latte stores, I doubt whether you could even contemplate their relativity or how they apply in a macro societal application.

A lack of intelligence is no excuse for your goose stepping ignorance.
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by Super Nova » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:11 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:Still go nothing eh? :lol:

Get back to me when you've grown out of your chicken little act and unnatural desire to regulate how the world actually works to how you think it should work, but will just become another steaming pile of failed leftists regressiveness. Just because you have bought your own spoon and filled your bowl with it, doesn't mean everyone is as stupid as you. Smiling through your brown stained teeth as it dribbles off your chin and demanding everyone sup from your shit soup will only win over those who are as weak minded as you and believe govts have the ability to fix that which isn't broken at a massive cost.
LOL.

It is broken, the myth it is not, is the propaganda of the puppets of the short term elite that you support. You unwittingly support the rich and powerful with your one eyed believe in the BS you have swallowed. I smile through my brown stained teeth at your ignorance of the long term health risks of the planet and laugh at your desire to only think in short term economics.

Hell, it would be an economic boom when the shit hits the fan, imagine all the money the corporations can make selling snake oil solutions to the problems they created. I get it now. It is all about power and money.
IQS.RLOW wrote:You really should have an understanding of how the psychology of self interest will always Trump whatever collectivist dribble you spout and the precautionary principle as it applies to economics and society tattooed inside your colon where you will be able to read it regularly.
When I look around every now and again by popping my head outside my colon, I see a world full of bullshit peddlers and stick my head back in where at least I see real honest shit.
IQS.RLOW wrote:Sadly, you're so enamoured with slurping down your Marxist shit soup you bought willingly from the "I can't believe it's not choc fudge" chain of leftwing funded inner city franchised latte stores, I doubt whether you could even contemplate their relativity or how they apply in a macro societal application.
Nothing to do with Marxist or lefty shit. You have been sucked in all because the earlier predictions were over egged in their forecast so you dismiss the whole risk because of it. This just shows your bias and lack of understanding. You take a position that cannot be changed when relevant information and analysis comes to the fore. You would be best suited to join the Flat Earth society. They apply the same logic.
IQS.RLOW wrote:A lack of intelligence is no excuse for your goose stepping ignorance.
It is to laugh.

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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by Rorschach » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:03 pm

WTF ?

The Greens need to be institutionalized for life.

Didn't you do Physics at school SN? Honestly you losing it boyo.
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Re: Physics to be rewritten

Post by Super Nova » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:50 pm

I did physics and still study it.

Watch out now, it is now responsible for the increase in volcanic activity..... now you denialist are responsible for every eruption from here to eternity. You should hang you head in shame.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... net-warms/

Get Ready for More Volcanic Eruptions as the Planet Warms
A new study shows that even relatively small-scale climatic changes affect volcanic activity.

Although scientists do not fully understand why glaciers appear to weaken volcanic eruptions, they believe the mechanics may be fairly straightforward. When glaciers expand, all that ice puts immense pressure on Earth’s surface. “It can affect magma flow and the voids and gaps in the Earth where magma flows to the surface as well as how much magma the crust can actually hold,” Swindles says. When glaciers retreat, the pressure lifts and volcanic activity surges. “After glaciers are removed the surface pressure decreases, and the magmas more easily propagate to the surface and thus erupt,”
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