How the US election could affect Australia

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:05 pm

mantra wrote:Some of Trump's promises might be OK in theory, but putting them into practice could become a major problem for us. Who are our allies - China or the US? If Trump imposes this 45% tariff on Chinese imports - they mightn't take it sitting down.

Now that we've leased Darwin Port to China this could put us in direct conflict with the US military. We've promised America they can use their Darwin base as a refuge in the event of military conflict with Asia. If Trump imposes this tariff - I can see the US forces not being permitted to use Darwin Port and we will be forced to choose sides.
America is China's biggest trade outlet and without the USA the Chinese economy would more than likely collapse.

We were and are fools to be selling everything off to the Chinese and hopefully when Trump gets into full swing we will learn and follow suit.

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by mantra » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:29 am

Black Orchid wrote:
America is China's biggest trade outlet and without the USA the Chinese economy would more than likely collapse.

We were and are fools to be selling everything off to the Chinese and hopefully when Trump gets into full swing we will learn and follow suit.
It's probably too late for us now. We're firmly intertwined with China. They own a lot more of our country that we're aware of.

The threshold for scrutiny of foreign investment in Australian agriculture and farms by the Foreign Investment Review Board has been reduced significantly so we don't have a clue what the real figures are.
Chinese investment in Australian real estate has doubled.

Foreign appetite for Aussie homes, from all corners of the globe, has surged in the past financial year, with the value of proposed investment rocketing by more than 75 per cent.

The Foreign Investment Review Board annual report shows China remains by far the biggest foreign buyer of property, splashing $24.3 billion in 2014-15 – more than triple the United States and six times the outlay from Singapore.

http://www.domain.com.au/news/chinese-i ... 08-go2czj/

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:46 am

The parasite (political) class and their media hacks are trying to write Trump off because they see him as a threat to their gravy train and authoritarian agendas.
Trump's policies appeal to the working class because he's not a partisan Republican. He joined the Democrats first, then the Republicans, went back to the Dems, and eventually went Rep again. So he's not party political driven, he's business and common sense driven, thus the populism.

FTAs aren't all they're cracked up to be. As a consumer, getting cheap items imported is great, but just AUSFA alone costs the Australian economy $57bn annually and rising in lost trade with other nations.

China has a debt bubble, and unless their govt bails out their govt owned enterprises (quite likely) in the same manner U$A bailed out their banks the bubble will burst.

Penny Wong and the ALP left's agenda to depart from our military alliance with the US is geo-political suicide and pretty much guarantees and Asian-Pacific arms race and expansionist colonisations in yet unexpected ways. Or what Rumsfeld called "Known unknowns".

The American public didn't endorse Trump because he's a charismatic showman, they chose him because he's head kicker.
And currently that's exactly what the modern world needs.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:10 pm

Outlaw Yogi wrote:Penny Wong and the ALP left's agenda to depart from our military alliance with the US is geo-political suicide and pretty much guarantees and Asian-Pacific arms race and expansionist colonisations in yet unexpected ways. Or what Rumsfeld called "Known unknowns".

The American public didn't endorse Trump because he's a charismatic showman, they chose him because he's head kicker.
And currently that's exactly what the modern world needs.
Amen to that!

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Neferti » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:29 pm

Actually, I am not getting much feedback from my American email friends ... I assume that ALL voted for Trump as they hated Hillary ... maybe some didn't bother to vote?

Trump might be just what the USA needs .... time will tell. Wait and see what he does once he is THE POTUS .... he could drop dead (or something) before January. Then Mike Pence will be the POTUS, as I understand it? Pence is a real Republican too, as I understand it ... Trump is a bit like our PM Turncoat ... a lefty/righty. :mrgreen:

How it COULD affect Australia? NOBODY knows ... not even people on a Forum. :rofl

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:57 pm

Abolishing the TPP is a plus in my view.

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by AnaTom » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:02 pm

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CIP total failure in 3000, 2 days ago.

And I met a highly potential actor.

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by mantra » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:15 am

What I object to about Trump is his lack of conscience when it comes to paying his small creditors, his hypocrisy in using foreign labour while condemning it at the same time and thinking you're stupid if you pay tax. He might be saying what some people want to hear, but at 70 he's not going to change his spots. I can see him either being assassinated or impeached.

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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Neferti » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:54 am

mantra wrote:What I object to about Trump is his lack of conscience when it comes to paying his small creditors, his hypocrisy in using foreign labour while condemning it at the same time and thinking you're stupid if you pay tax. He might be saying what some people want to hear, but at 70 he's not going to change his spots. I can see him either being assassinated or impeached.
Do you actually think Trump pulls out his cheque book and pays anybody? He has Accountants to do that, surely.

As I said elsewhere, Trump is 70, he might kick the bucket before being officially inaugurated, then Mike Pence would take over .... if Trump dies in office, Pence would take over. Trump might hand over to Pence before the 20 January 2017. Who knows. Have you read what Pence is all about? Here's a snippet.
Pence is a devout evangelical Christian who regularly talks about his faith. (He likes to describe himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order.") This spring, Pence signed into law one of the strictest abortion laws in the nation. Indiana is now the second state in the nation to ban abortions when the fetus has a disability, a law likely to be challenged in court.
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Re: How the US election could affect Australia

Post by Neferti » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:41 pm

What I was trying to say, above, Mantra, was .... don't judge a book by its cover, read every page of it first. Trump may or may not be a "good" President. We will just have to wait and see him in action. IF some nutcase tries to assassinate him it wouldn't surprise me either ... it would be a leftard though, that's for sure. :mrgreen:

I see that the Designer who "dresses" Michelle has come out stating she will NOT do the same for Melania. More sour grapes. Why on earth would Melania want to use the same Designer as Michelle? She looks like she has a sense of fashion to begin with, whereas Michelle's dress sense was atrocious when she first became First Lady.

I must check out Mike Pence's wife. Will post a pix ASAP ... :rofl

Here it is. Her name is Karen. She looks kinda homely and undoubtedly a Good Church-goer. ;) However, they have been married since 1985, so a "stayer".

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PS The "boys" here probably won't like me bringing up a VIPs better half but it is important and surely part of the deal?

:hi2 Arsie.

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