Cattle tax

[DaS Energy]

Tell me, what use are whales in the environment?

Environmental record eye view mans extinction own excrement waste.

[Rorschach]

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[Outlaw Yogi]

Keep in mind the Nats are Politicians and politicians see themselves free to lie. If the Nats truly don't like it, then they don't to vote for it, its called crossing the floor!

Well I'm not partisan when it comes to parties, and am yet to ever vote Nat. But I am glad someone has taken on the veg nazis' anti-meat agenda with their animal welfare emotion scam.

Of course pollies lie (constantly), but so too it seems does any idealist with an agenda to push.
I noticed it first as a teen with feminists. It sempt that they figured it was OK to lie if it aided the cause.
Veg nazis also lie constantly if they think it will further their cause or persuade a new recruit to adopt their mental illness.

Spoze the main difference with Nats and veg nazis is you don't have to worry about Nats trying to put soy milk in your coffee.

Why would you farm whales when there are huge numbers of them in the wild to harvest?

Why put up a straw man if you don't have a valid argument when its knocked down?
Personally I don't mind whale hunting so long as it's done with the hunters'/consumers own territory, rather that someone else's.
But the point is, its not about whales or koalas, it's about anti-meat industry veg nazis trying to impose a pseudo-tax on beef to further their own perverted agenda.

[freediver]

Personally I don't mind whale hunting so long as it's done with the hunters'/consumers own territory, rather that someone else's.

Is this a reference to something happening now? You remind me of the anti-meat industry, anti-whaling nazis trying to impose a pseudo territory on whales to further their own perverted agenda.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Personally I don't mind whale hunting so long as it's done with the hunters'/consumers own territory, rather that someone else's.

Is this a reference to something happening now? You remind me of the anti-meat industry, anti-whaling nazis trying to impose a pseudo territory on whales to further their own perverted agenda.

No, it's a reference to your attempt to alter the thread topic.
Concerning territory, I think it's fine if Japs or Scandinavians hunt whales so long as they do it in their own waters.
As for 'pseudo territory' ? .. Are you suggesting maritime borders be abolished?
Or if all the parking spaces in your area are taken, is it Ok for me to park my truck and let my dogs $#!+ on your lawn?
You remind me of a child caught with his hand in the lolly jar, and trying to create a distraction about someone else making off with the biscuits.

Fact is I have infiltrated these vego groups and know from repeated personal experience that veg nazis/vegan fundamentalists have a political agenda to prevent people eating meat, by any means possible. As their dogmas fail to convince thinking people, they resort to sabotaging the meat industries.
They desire a scenario like in the southern states of India where eating meat incurs a gaol/jail sentence.

I think it's time vegos got their own planet, instead of continually trying to phuk this one up.

[freediver]

Concerning territory, I think it's fine if Japs or Scandinavians hunt whales so long as they do it in their own waters.

Why not in international waters?

This is not changing the topic. This is the same topic. I am just pointing out how you criticise the veg nazis in one breath then turn into a cheerleader for them in the next.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Concerning territory, I think it's fine if Japs or Scandinavians hunt whales so long as they do it in their own waters.

Why not in international waters?

In spirit because such whales would be common international property, but in practice, there's nothing and no real reason other than so called international protocols.
Spoze it's a bit like saving turtles. Pointless if Indonesians can harvest in the numbers they do, all within their own waters.

This is not changing the topic. This is the same topic. I am just pointing out how you criticise the veg nazis in one breath then turn into a cheerleader for them in the next.

It is regarding veg nazis imposing a pseudo-tax on beef as a stepping stone to destroying meat industries in their anti-meat agenda.
And it still is when you posit animal welfare as your argument, because the vegetarians' animal welfare excuses are fraudulent.
Their desire is not to prevent animals suffering. They desire the influence to impose their dietary dictates on others, that's it

I've seen how vegetarians treat animals, like the hippies who ran Byron Bay post office who kept a Rottweiler bitch tied up out the back emaciated because they would only feed her vegetables.

[freediver]

In spirit because such whales would be common international property

Many fish, eg tuna, are international travellers. Should tuna be banned also?

It is regarding veg nazis imposing a pseudo-tax on beef as a stepping stone to destroying meat industries in their anti-meat agenda.

They have already destroyed the whale industry. It is illegal for me to buy it here.

And it still is when you posit animal welfare as your argument, because the vegetarians' animal welfare excuses are fraudulent.

Currently that is the only real argument against whaling.

[Outlaw Yogi]

In spirit because such whales would be common international property

Many fish, eg tuna, are international travellers. Should tuna be banned also?

Tuna is $#!+, I don't care if cats and Japs eat it to extinction.

It is regarding veg nazis imposing a pseudo-tax on beef as a stepping stone to destroying meat industries in their anti-meat agenda.

They have already destroyed the whale industry. It is illegal for me to buy it here.[/quote]

Actually the whale industry proper died due to a lack of whales long before environmentalists or animal welfare activists decided whale meat is evil.

And it still is when you posit animal welfare as your argument, because the vegetarians' animal welfare excuses are fraudulent.

Currently that is the only real argument against whaling.[/quote]

Then it won't last.

You seem like a self contradictory sort of fella FD.
You call yourself Free Diver and had a pic of yourself holding a reasonable size catch, which I assume you speared.
Now you jump on the veg nazi band wagon implying you are a vegetarian and support the animal welfare regime's arguments.
How come spear fishing doesn't conflict with your veg nazi animal welfare sentiments?

[freediver]

Tuna is $#!+, I don't care if cats and Japs eat it to extinction.

Have you ever had it not out of a can?

Why are whales so special?

Actually the whale industry proper died due to a lack of whales long before environmentalists or animal welfare activists decided whale meat is evil.

It didn't die. It just went on holiday for a few decades. There are plenty of whales of some commercially important species now.

Now you jump on the veg nazi band wagon implying you are a vegetarian and support the animal welfare regime's arguments.

Not sure where you get this from. I was trying to point out that you are on the bandwagon.