Coalition heading backwards with first steps

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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by Rorschach » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:11 pm

mantra wrote:
Rorschach wrote:
Oh BTW are we really going to indulge Stinker by actually reading his "topics"?
His topics and posts are certainly a lot more interesting than yours. Abbott lied.

no mantra until you prove otherwise... YOU DID...

Where are the facts to back up your claim?
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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:38 pm

If the boats have almost stopped we can thank Rudd's PNG Solution, but Abbott will take credit for it of course.

Abbott hasn't reached any conclusive agreement with Indonesia - otherwise there would be a hint of it somewhere. He has got exactly nowhere. All he did was acknowledge that Indonesia have their own problems dealing with tens of thousands of refugees annually and can't help us with ours. Why should they unless they're going to be paid a huge amount of cash, but even if that's the case, it's been tried and proven that funding Indonesia in regard to the refugees doesn't work.

We won't know if there are boats coming or not - because Abbott is being sneaky and has gone underground on this issue. He has silenced the Immigration Minister - as he has done with all his other ministers. The alleged once a week report is a ruse. What's the bet that whatever is reported will be only what has occurred on that day or the previous one.

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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:43 pm

mantra wrote:If the boats have almost stopped we can thank Rudd's PNG Solution, but Abbott will take credit for it of course.

Abbott hasn't reached any conclusive agreement with Indonesia - otherwise there would be a hint of it somewhere. He has got exactly nowhere. All he did was acknowledge that Indonesia have their own problems dealing with tens of thousands of refugees annually and can't help us with ours. Why should they unless they're going to be paid a huge amount of cash, but even if that's the case, it's been tried and proven that funding Indonesia in regard to the refugees doesn't work.

We won't know if there are boats coming or not - because Abbott is being sneaky and has gone underground on this issue. He has silenced the Immigration Minister - as he has done with all his other ministers. The alleged once a week report is a ruse. What's the bet that whatever is reported will be only what has occurred on that day or the previous one.
This whole post should be quotes into the Mantra lies thread. It's a complete fabrication and bullshit.
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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:59 pm

This whole post should be quotes into the Mantra lies thread. It's a complete fabrication and bullshit.
We have a new government and the leader has demanded silence from his Ministers - that is true. If you think that what I have posted is fabrication - then it's only the start. Abbott is not transparent and anyone writing about Abbott will have to try to read between the lines.

Tell me IQ - apart from the $15,000 Indonesian Trades Centre and making a promise to stop the protests for an Independent PNG - what agreement exactly has Abbott made with Indonesia? Those piddly little promises mean nothing, especially as their funding is going to be greatly reduced.

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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:14 pm

If you think that what I have posted is fabrication - then it's only the start.
Oh I know. I expect you to post many more fabrications
Tell me IQ - apart from the $15,000 Indonesian Trades Centre and making a promise to stop the protests for an Independent PNG - what agreement exactly has Abbott made with Indonesia? Those piddly little promises mean nothing, especially as their funding is going to be greatly reduced.
You will have to wait and see. It is not your place to know all operational matters when it comes to stopping illegal immigration. There's a new sheriff in town and they do things differently with actual results and not grandiose self proclaimed announcements of "unprecedented" and "groundbreaking" and "greatest" through the media cycle.

This is a govt of doing, not seeming.
Get used to it.
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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:35 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote: You will have to wait and see. It is not your place to know all operational matters when it comes to stopping illegal immigration. There's a new sheriff in town and they do things differently with actual results and not grandiose self proclaimed announcements of "unprecedented" and "groundbreaking" and "greatest" through the media cycle.

This is a govt of doing, not seeming.
Get used to it.

That's a good excuse. He might get away with his code of silence for a few weeks, but people will demand answers eventually. Abbott thinks that all that is required of him is the fact that he's a Liberal and whatever happened in previous Lib governments will get him through. It won't. Times have changed and his cabinet is getting old and stale and the public want transparency.

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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by Neferti » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:43 pm

mantra wrote:
This whole post should be quotes into the Mantra lies thread. It's a complete fabrication and bullshit.
We have a new government and the leader has demanded silence from his Ministers - that is true. If you think that what I have posted is fabrication - then it's only the start. Abbott is not transparent and anyone writing about Abbott will have to try to read between the lines.

Tell me IQ - apart from the $15,000 Indonesian Trades Centre and making a promise to stop the protests for an Independent PNG - what agreement exactly has Abbott made with Indonesia? Those piddly little promises mean nothing, especially as their funding is going to be greatly reduced.
Is Abbott back in Australia yet? He will make an announcement about what went on in Jakarta when he is good and ready. Don't expect him to get his head on the News every time he farts, like the last lot did. Tony Abbott is not a LIAR nor is he a media "tart". He is taking his Prime Ministership very seriously and good on him. When he has something important to announce, he will announce it. This is his management style. Get used to it.

Meanwhile, he will go about business and QUIETLY get the country back in working condition!

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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by mantra » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:46 pm

Neferti~ wrote:Meanwhile, he will go about business and QUIETLY get the country back in working condition!
He won't if his new book on "how to destroy a government in 6 years" gets into circulation.

http://www.tonyabbottexposed.com/

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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by Rorschach » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:50 pm

mantra wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:Meanwhile, he will go about business and QUIETLY get the country back in working condition!
He won't if his new book on "how to destroy a government in 6 years" gets into circulation.

http://www.tonyabbottexposed.com/

You still quoting crap as fact mantra... are you that ignorant and gullible or are you posting lies mantra... lies...
last time I checked there was no such book, just a comment by a journo you thought was real.. :rofl
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Re: Coalition heading backwards with first steps

Post by IQS.RLOW » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:54 pm

The leftys want whinge material you mean.

You will get what you are given and you will be grateful there is a proper govt in place that isn't full of idiot leftists without a clue.

Results are what matter, not just announcing things that never work, like surpluses, Timor solutions, No carbon taxes, fuel watch, whale watch, and a host of other 'announcements' that resulted in sweet fuck all except one expensive fuckup after another.
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