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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by mantra » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:37 pm

mellie wrote:
Set up by specific factions within major party’s who have in turn effectively struck preference deals with themselves would be a more accurate distinction I think Mantra.

8-)
Yes that is a strong possibility. There have been some blunders already with people being misled by the various names and thinking they were giving their preferences to one party, then finding out otherwise. It's all very sneaky this year.

We need more transparency.

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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by mellie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:43 pm

Rorschach wrote:They are a Conservative party mel... that is how they identify them selves and according to their preferences they put katter and palmer and the libs way above Labor and the Greens.

You gotta stop chasing those reds under your beds that stuff ended many decades ago. Today they are largely out in the open.

Katter ....OMG....he's a red from way back, so was his father you misguided dolt.

:rofl

They superficially masquerade as conservatives when they are anything else but.

A good way of spotting them is their numerous contradictions. Their mouths say one thing but their actions tell us what they really are.

Take Rudds mate Katter and Soviet suck-hole Palmer for instance... they claim to be conservative, however who they preference tells us what they really are.

The trouble is....the average yokel voter doesn’t get this.

They read what’s on their cardboard signs, and listen to what comes out of their mouths and have not a clue as to what their preferred party does with their group voting tickets.(GVT's)

8-) Are you a yokel Roach?

Live in a town with a double digit population?

If not, why so ignorant?
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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by mellie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:44 pm

mantra wrote:
mellie wrote:
Set up by specific factions within major party’s who have in turn effectively struck preference deals with themselves would be a more accurate distinction I think Mantra.

8-)
Yes that is a strong possibility. There have been some blunders already with people being misled by the various names and thinking they were giving their preferences to one party, then finding out otherwise. It's all very sneaky this year.

We need more transparency.

More accurate depiction rather.....
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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by mellie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:47 pm

mantra wrote:
mellie wrote:
Set up by specific factions within major party’s who have in turn effectively struck preference deals with themselves would be a more accurate distinction I think Mantra.

8-)
Yes that is a strong possibility. There have been some blunders already with people being misled by the various names and thinking they were giving their preferences to one party, then finding out otherwise. It's all very sneaky this year.

We need more transparency.

Absolutely....but you wont get it from Labor or the Greens, nor their numerous minion GVT parties....they are who's championing it.

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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by Rorschach » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:29 pm

You're not very politically astute are you mel
you see everything in black and RED
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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by mellie » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:32 pm

Rorschach wrote:You're not very politically astute are you mel
you see everything in black and RED

Oh, witty retort.... well done comrade!


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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by mellie » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:05 am

mellie wrote:
Rorschach wrote:They are a Conservative party mel... that is how they identify them selves and according to their preferences they put katter and palmer and the libs way above Labor and the Greens.

You gotta stop chasing those reds under your beds that stuff ended many decades ago. Today they are largely out in the open.

Katter ....OMG....he's a red from way back, so was his father you misguided dolt.

:rofl

They superficially masquerade as conservatives when they are anything else but.

A good way of spotting them is their numerous contradictions. Their mouths say one thing but their actions tell us what they really are.

Take Rudds mate Katter and Soviet suck-hole Palmer for instance... they claim to be conservative, however who they preference tells us what they really are.

The trouble is....the average yokel voter doesn’t get this.

They read what’s on their cardboard signs, and listen to what comes out of their mouths and have not a clue as to what their preferred party does with their group voting tickets.(GVT's)

8-) Are you a yokel Roach?

Live in a town with a double digit population?

If not, why so ignorant?


Ha ha ha.... it's like one bogus conservative party preferencing another bogus conservative party...oh when will their fascicle manifesto end?

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/spec ... 6709316916

So you still think Katter and Palmer are conservatives Roach?

They are as red as Gillards box.

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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by Rorschach » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:58 am

First up lets deal with the stupid strawman eh mel... I never said they were conservatives.
But lets look at some facts.
1/ Katter did not support the Gillard government after the last election... Dopeshot and Whinger did.
2/ Katter used to be a National Party member and candidate.
3/ Palmer has been a member and financial supporter of the Nationals and later the LNP
4/ Katter's father was a member of the ALP/QLP/Country Party and the Nationals. BTW in those days the ALP was not a so-called progressive party, the traditional ALP was more conservative and protectionist than it is today. More protectionist than todays Coalition which is one of the main reasons Katter has been an Independent for over 10 years.
5/ Katter was a huge supporter of Joh.
6/ Katter is a social conservative. On economic issues, like his father, Katter retains elements of socialist political views from the 1950s, including opposition to privatisation and economic deregulation.
7/ Katter is critical of climate change and has opposed enacting legislation to control emissions.
8/ Katter opposed the decriminalisation of homosexuality and opposed same-sex marriage.
9/ Palmer was a huge supporter of Joh and the Joh for Canberra push.
10/ Palmer was made a life member of the National (now LNP) Party.

So considering their background and their parties pro-Australia policies I can understand a Conservative Party which also espouses populist pro-Australian policies preferencing them.

So far except for crying RED< RED< RED... and mouthing conspiranut crap, you've shown nothing.
have a nice day... :hlo
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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by Rorschach » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:07 am

Unlike you mel I'm interested in Australian politics and don't go madly around trying to shutdown topics and discussions of all the parties involved in an election.
2013 Election
Party Crasher: Australian Voice Party

August 28, 2013

A record number of parties have registered ahead of this year’s election. Over the next few weeks, we’ll be digging into the newest entrants to political thunderdome. Next up, is the Australian Voice Party.

After thoroughly investigating one of the newest political parties to brace the ballot box, Australian Voice Party sadly does not represent opera singers or speech pathologist’s rights. Instead, the idea behind the name simply represents the voice of the community.

Created to address the many problems that have arisen under the dominant two party system, the Australian Voice Party refers to itself as a people movement, rather than a political party.

President Keith Douglas who had previously been involved with Katter’s Australia Party, says the AVP are going back to the fundamentals of democracy.

“We believe the whole system in Australia has been hijacked by the two major parties,” says Douglas.

“Those parties tend to have a bias towards unions and big business and the little guys have been left behind. “

Their philosophy is to engage the people they are helping, insisting they function differently from traditional parties because their candidates will support the majority view of their electorate.

“So in other words if we are representing university students, they know what they need better than anyone,” says Douglas.

“We want them to become involved, write policy and direct where things should go.”

Passionate about small business equality, stopping offshore processing and ensuring tertiary students are financially stable; the AVP says they will not get bugged down in moral conflict.

“We sweep away all of the religious and moral arguments people get snagged in, in Australia,” says Douglas.

“A lot of small parties are obsessed with these things, but we will respect the views of the electorate.”

Looking to improve the lives of normal Australians, Douglas says the biggest problem that Australians have had recently, is the government.

“There has been so much bad government over the years our cost of living has been pushed out, we have been over taxed by way of fees.

“The government are double dipping, we pay our taxes and the government charges us back on other fees to support this constantly gloating monster you can never throw enough money at.”

Policies

Superannuation access


The aim of this policy is to give the average mortgage owner a helping hand.

“We want to give a break to the Mums and Dads of the country and those people who are paying their mortgages. We believe their financial progress can be hastened by being able to access a portion of their superannuation to reduce their home mortgage,” says Douglas.

“This allows them to pay their house of sooner and protect their superannuation from losses which a lot of people have suffered and it’s tax effective.”

Greater support for university students

Students should be able to support themselves financially while studying.

“We believe supporting some of Australia’s most creative minds and making sure the education system points towards outcomes,” says Douglas.

“We are particularly interested in ensuring people studying have the financial support so they’re not out working half a dozen jobs to make ends meet.

“People who are studying need the opportunity to study and not live on the breadline. We are in favour of bringing in more scholarships to recognise the best and brightest so they can completely dedicate themselves to what they are doing and not worry about where their next meal is coming from.”

Sustainability

“We’ve got the resources of the world, yet some of the highest energy costs. Again that’s a fault of government, selling things off and corporatising it so you then have groups hell bent on satisfying their share holders,” says Douglas.

“There’s a stack of renewable energies and bio energy solutions, none of that has been properly embraced. There are great opportunities for sustainability in time it just needs government support.”

Despite their inexperience Douglas is extremely confident in achieving success at this election and in the future, as his party acts as a watchdog to the government who has been “asleep at the wheel”.

“We are very determined to make sure this country goes back to where it used to be, by avoiding the current trends of smaller businesses getting smaller, big businesses getting bigger and monopolies growing unchecked by regulators.”

“While we might be the newest party we are certainly going to become the most visible political force in Australia because we are the only party that is going to out and help these people and bring all communities behind us to get the change.”

The Australian Voice Party are fielding candidates in Victoria, Queensland, NSW and Western Australia, visit their website for further information.
Bridget Rollason is a third-year Bachelor of Journalism student and upstart’s Fashion and Lifestyle editor. You can follow her on Twitter: @Didgeriedoo.
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Re: Australian Voice party... huh?

Post by Plough » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:36 am

WTF are Manchester United doing under your bed?

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