The next referendum

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Re: The next referendum

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:05 pm

Aussie wrote:
Rorschach wrote:
Rorschach wrote:What evs kev has dumped the local gov referendum... :lol:
gee couldn't have been that important after all eh.

What evs Kev
made the decision on the date Arsie... you can make all the excuses you like. :rofl
No excuse made. A statement of reality made. Rudd made the obvious decision, given Abbott withdrew support for the Referendum issue.

Really... ? What a load of shyte Arsie. Keep making them faux excuses...
Abbott made that decision ages ago and Rudd apparently just made the date decision today, that decision alone means there is not enough time to have the referendum. What evs kev admitted as much on tv, just a few minutes ago.
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Re: The next referendum

Post by Aussie » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:17 pm

No excuse made. A statement of reality made. Rudd made the obvious decision, given Abbott withdrew support for the Referendum issue.
Really... ? What a load of shyte Arsie. Keep making them faux excuses...
Abbott made that decision ages ago and Rudd apparently just made the date decision today, that decision alone means there is not enough time to have the referendum. What evs kev admitted as much on tv, just a few minutes ago.
Yes, he did. Have you not read what I have posted and not heard what Rudd said outside PH this afternoon? The matter will be delayed given Abbott has withdrawn support.

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Re: The next referendum

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:29 pm

Aussie wrote:
No excuse made. A statement of reality made. Rudd made the obvious decision, given Abbott withdrew support for the Referendum issue.
Really... ? What a load of shyte Arsie. Keep making them faux excuses...
Abbott made that decision ages ago and Rudd apparently just made the date decision today, that decision alone means there is not enough time to have the referendum. What evs kev admitted as much on tv, just a few minutes ago.
Yes, he did. Have you not read what I have posted and not heard what Rudd said outside PH this afternoon? The matter will be delayed given Abbott has withdrawn support.

Yes I have and yes I did.
You cannot explain why when the Coalition withdrew support, the ALP did not cancel the referendum. After all if that was the decision breaker as you claim then why did this not occur back then? :bgrin

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Get used to it.
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Re: The next referendum

Post by Jovial_Monk » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:32 pm

Yup, referendums don’t tend to pass unless both sides support it.

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Re: The next referendum

Post by kevin457 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:59 pm

Gay marriage advocates have dismissed Prime Minister Kevin Rudd's offer to hold a referendum on gay marriage if Tony Abbott refuses to allow Coalition members a conscience vote on the issue.

Rodney Croome, the national convenor of Australian Marriage equality, says any public vote could be used by reform opponents to whip up a fear campaign.

Mr Rudd was once an opponent of marriage equality, but after what he calls a "difficult personal journey", announced in May that he had switched his position.
Rudds attempt to cash-in on politicising this issue has failed miserably.

Though what some of you may not be aware of is that irrespective of his new stance on the issue of Gay Marriage, he made it quite clear on his blog that despite his 'alleged' change of heart he wont be taking any leadership on the matter nationally.

The last 4 sentences of his gay-marriage disclaimer on his blog, published Monday, 20 May 2013 are as follows...
For the record, I will not be taking any leadership role on this issue nationally. My core interest is to be clear-cut about the change in my position locally on this highly controversial issue before the next election, so that my constituents are fully aware of my position when they next visit the ballot box. That, I believe, is the right thing to do.

http://www.kevinruddmp.com/2013/05/chur ... -have.html


So in other words, he wants his constitutes and voters (particularly the gay community) to believe that whilst he has absolutely no intentions of legislating gay marriage, or defending their perceived rite to such on a national level, this is , take it to a referendum, he still wants them to believe he's not as conservative as Abbott these days, and now thinks gay marriage is ok.

But can we take what Rudd says to the bank?

No,,,because it's a pathetic attempt to score votes from the more progressive among us, and Gay Marriage supporters.

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Re: The next referendum

Post by Aussie » Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:09 pm

Yes I have and yes I did.
You cannot explain why when the Coalition withdrew support, the ALP did not cancel the referendum. After all if that was the decision breaker as you claim then why did this not occur back then? :bgrin
They withdrew support when Gillard was calling the tune on the election date. Rudd is now PM, and as such one of the very few political perks he gets is to name the election date. That he has done, and that meant shelving the Local Government Referendum.

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Re: The next referendum

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:09 pm

That he has done, and that meant shelving the Local Government Referendum.
:du :du :du

Yep just like I've been telling you... and changing it from the 14th to the 7th means there can be no referendum.
His decision...

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Re: The next referendum

Post by Aussie » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:10 pm

Rorschach wrote:
That he has done, and that meant shelving the Local Government Referendum.
:du :du :du

Yep just like I've been telling you... and changing it from the 14th to the 7th means there can be no referendum.
His decision...

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Yeas, and the decision on the election date was taken after Abbott withdrew support.

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Re: The next referendum

Post by Rorschach » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:13 pm

Already covered that Arsie.
Don't waste my time by making yourself look dumber by dragging this out.
Even I have limits to the rubbish I'll tolerate.
I already have 2 of you on ignore.
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Re: The next referendum

Post by Aussie » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:20 pm

Rorschach wrote:Already covered that Arsie.
Don't waste my time by making yourself look dumber by dragging this out.
Even I have limits to the rubbish I'll tolerate.
I already have 2 of you on ignore.
More of the "I/me" which makes 'Politics' so unattractive.

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