Liberal backlash against Abbott's climate change policy

[Jovial_Monk]

Oh good! SSM is another area the alpha wuss is feeling pressure on—could see Tone allowing a conscience motion on SSM next sitting!

[Jovial_Monk]

Oh dear, now the NT is signing on to NDIS, Tone can’t do much about that no more, assuming he ever becomes PM.

Gonski will go a similar way.

[Jovial_Monk]

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Oops an unfortunate article from ??? before FTTH was announced.

Tragic thing is, Fiona and Barnaby designed a FTTH scheme pretty much identical to Labor’s NBN! That was in the time of PM Howard who wasn’t interested in infrastructure, only pork, so the design just got filed in Nat HQ, Page House.

The program she talked about, like #Fraudband was a nothing scheme.

Pity the Nats are only interested in agreeing with the Libs, nor representing their electors. Still, shows they really want Labor’s NBN.

[IQS.RLOW]

Never be delivered on time or on budget with ALP- they cant even get a budget right.

Never have a surplus under the ALP again.
Spenders, wastrels and crooks.

Always have been, always will be.

[mantra]

We definitely won't get a surplus under Abbott. He will remove the mining tax (miniscule as it is), he will repeal the carbon tax and he will open the tax loopholes even wider for his wealthy mates to rort. He will pay Australia's wealthiest mothers an inequitable wage to have their babies comfortably. He also has to dredge up $3.2 billion dollars for his revamped climate change policy - so where's he going to get the money?

Why do the right whingers avoid this question?

[Super Nova]

The trouble really is it is not until you get into power do you discover where the bodies are buried.

I think the right consider labor fiscally irresponsible and have a greater trust in liberal policies and the fiscal track record demonstrates they have to come in to fixed the countries balance sheet. Then the cycle begins again.

[Neferti]

We definitely won't get a surplus under Abbott. He will remove the mining tax (miniscule as it is), he will repeal the carbon tax and he will open the tax loopholes even wider for his wealthy mates to rort. He will pay Australia's wealthiest mothers an inequitable wage to have their babies comfortably. He also has to dredge up $3.2 billion dollars for his revamped climate change policy - so where's he going to get the money?

Why do the right whingers avoid this question?

Why do you continue to think you know what Abbott will do if he becomes the next Prime Minister?

He isn't in Election Mode completely, yet, so he hasn't made any definite Election Promises. He won't know the actual state of the books until he becomes PM. We can only guess at how shocking they are!

I think he should wind ALL Gillard's big spending back, get rid of any idea about anyone getting paid maternity leave or whatever it is. They already get parental leave. There are several other things that are not necessary too.

The Coalition always has to come down hard when they gain power after the ALP stuff ups. The ALP like spending other people's money and find it "fun". Eventually other people's money runs out ....

[mantra]

Why do you continue to think you know what Abbott will do if he becomes the next Prime Minister?

Because Abbott has not got a moral or political mind of his own. He has been highly trained by his mentors John Howard and Cardinal Pell.

He isn't in Election Mode completely, yet, so he hasn't made any definite Election Promises. He won't know the actual state of the books until he becomes PM. We can only guess at how shocking they are!

I think he should wind ALL Gillard's big spending back, get rid of any idea about anyone getting paid maternity leave or whatever it is. They already get parental leave. There are several other things that are not necessary too.

The Coalition always has to come down hard when they gain power after the ALP stuff ups. The ALP like spending other people's money and find it "fun". Eventually other people's money runs out ....

If his shadow cabinet has any sense - they'll talk him out of some of these ridiculous policies. I can't see it happening though. Abbott has got a one track mind. He has no foresight and no interest in what he's doing. He is a puppet only. For God's sake - he gets his young daughters to help him make policy decisions.

[Neferti]

Why do you continue to think you know what Abbott will do if he becomes the next Prime Minister?

Because Abbott has not got a moral or political mind of his own. He has been highly trained by his mentors John Howard and Cardinal Pell.

He isn't in Election Mode completely, yet, so he hasn't made any definite Election Promises. He won't know the actual state of the books until he becomes PM. We can only guess at how shocking they are!

I think he should wind ALL Gillard's big spending back, get rid of any idea about anyone getting paid maternity leave or whatever it is. They already get parental leave. There are several other things that are not necessary too.

The Coalition always has to come down hard when they gain power after the ALP stuff ups. The ALP like spending other people's money and find it "fun". Eventually other people's money runs out ....

If his shadow cabinet has any sense - they'll talk him out of some of these ridiculous policies. I can't see it happening though. Abbott has got a one track mind. He has no foresight and no interest in what he's doing. He is a puppet only. For God's sake - he gets his young daughters to help him make policy decisions.

Again, Mantra, you do NOT know Abbott any more than I do. He may have learned a few things from Howard but I doubt he will follow what Howard did. Why would he? Tony Abbott is Tony Abbott, not John Howard and certainly not Pell.

I did a quick Poll thing on one of the newspaper sites the other day .... something to do with how to get back into surplus ..... it was an interesting "fun" thing to do and I only needed to get rid of a few of Gillard's stuff ups to get the Budget back into a surplus. Many of Gillard's "policies" don't begin for 5+ or so years, so they can go for a start.

As I said, the Coalition hasn't listed specific Election "promises" as yet. We all know why, after the Rudd experiment where he Me-tooed everything Howard announced. There is NO money in the coffers to promise anything, so I expect that the Coalition will have to tighten the belt, dramatically, if they are returned and I can't see why they won't be.

I personally hope that all the so-called Middle Class Welfare gets canned! People do not need public money handed out to have babies. They should do something about all the people on the DSP because they are too obese and lazy to get off their arse and go on a diet. The paid maternity thing is ridiculous.

As Malcolm Fraser said, Life wasn't meant to be easy. It was difficult to buy a house, raise kids, work and so forth when he was around as PM. The only thing that has changed is that people WANT it ALL NOW and aren't willing to wait. Most of the things they want are not necessities they are wants only and can be done without if you cannot organise yourself to save for them and expecting "The Government" to contribute to your preferred lifestyle is pure stupidity.

/rant

[mantra]

I agree with most of your points. It seems everyone now has an entitlement mentality. When did porkbarreling start? Years ago surpluses went towards research, basic education and health. Now it goes towards school shoes, immunisation (or not), computers, having a baby, free insulation, full pensions for self retirees, disability for young healthy people etc and a whole list of unessential handouts - the tax burden falling on single workers mainly.