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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:00 pm

HIGHERBEAM wrote:
underpinned by the Christian philosophy
Is this the christian philosphy that over the eons condemned Mary Magdalene to be a prostitute just because she was a disciple of Jesus and the early christians did not want women involved in the church so altered the history of the early church to condemn her to be a prostitute.Virgin in olden times actually meant unwed,now it has moved to its modern version.I fail to see any resemblance of early christian values and philosophy coming through to the modern sanitised variant.Jesus was not celibant and had friends and disciples of male and female, so I fail to see a issue of allowing bisexuals, homosexuals or any other variant to attend formals as this is the real world not a sanitised version of the bible.
What was it according to the so called 'Christian' text that Judas did when identifying Jesus on the Mount of Olives?
'He kissed him on the lips' .. which has caused some to ask was Jesus and Judas involved in a homosexual relationship?
Hmmm, maybe Judas got jealous when Jesus got chummy with Mary Magdaline and put him in for spite.

Y'know the funny thing about so called Christianity is there's actually nothing in common with the Essenes (cult/sect which Jesus supposedly belonged to) beliefs/practices and those claiming to be Christian/Catholic.
According to the Essenes doctrine, the devil (Satan) is the creator. Thus explaining 'Evil in the world' and why nature is so cruel. Apparently reincarnation was/is a punishment metered out to everyone and the only way to escape Earth and join the good god was/is to lose all your beliefs. Which is pretty much the same message in the Tibetan book of the Dead (Disolve your ego).
Resurrection was introduced by the Catholics, but not actually their idea. In Ganesha Purana Shiva resurrected Ganesha with a baby elephants head.
By the way Jesus' name was not Jesus. It was Joseph. Jesus is the latin translation for Joseph. And Mary's name was not Mary, it was Miriam.
There's a tomb/crypt in Kashmir which heaps of Indians reckon is where Jesus is buried. Apparently he did not die from crucifixion, but survived, had his wounds healed with aloe vera, went on walkabout, planted an oak tree in Britain, wound up back in northern India (where he'd hid as a boy), set him self up as a guru in a temple in Kashmir and eventually died of old age like most other people.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by HIGHERBEAM » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:40 pm

"The nameless figure in Slavonic Josephus is John the Baptist, not Jesus. Later, many details of the popular story of John’s execution were appropriated for Jesus, and John’s execution was transposed to Galilee. Luke, likewise, reassigned much of the Baptist’s birth account to Jesus in his Gospel"
Mary, the mother of Jesus, bore a Judeo-Aramaic variant of this name, Maryām (מרים). In the New Testament of the Bible, written in Greek, her name is transformed to Mariam (Μαριάμ) or Maria. Several other women in the New Testament, including Mary Magdalene, are called by the same name. Because of Mary's great significance to two other world religions, variants of her name are often given to girl children in both Christian and Islamic cultures. In the Quran, Mary's name assumed the Arabic form Maryam (مريم), which has also passed into other languages. The Greek variant Maria passed into Latin and many modern European languages.
This is known by scholars. Here is one account:

The first Christians celebrated the death of Jesus with a Pascha meal (eucharist) on the lunar date of the Jewish Passover (note 1 Cor. 5:7-8).

At first there was no annual celebration of the resurrection. Eventually, in the gentile world, the day of resurrection was added to the Pascha festival. That day was Sunday. At the Council of Nicea (325) it was ruled that Easter Sunday would be celebrated on the Sunday immediately following that full moon which came after the vernal equinox. At the same time the Council decided that the vernal equinox would be March 21 in the Julian calendar (Eusebius, Vit. Const. 3.18). (Synder GF. Irish Jesus, Roman Jesus: the formation of early Irish Christianity. Trinity Press International, 2002, p. 183)

So, for compromisers, the Passover changed. And it changed a lot.

Those who think that the compromise was only small and should have been acceptable to God should remember that the Apostle Paul warned:

7...Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump (Galatians 5:7-9).

Paul was warning Christians that they should not allow a little compromise with the world (apparently including arguments of friends/acquaintances) should affect them. Paul and the early Christians kept Passover and the Days of Unleavened Bread. They did not keep Easter.
Heretic you have some facts right but not many
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance

Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:16 am

At first there was no annual celebration of the resurrection. Eventually, in the gentile world, the day of resurrection was added to the Pascha festival. That day was Sunday. At the Council of Nicea (325) it was ruled that Easter Sunday would be celebrated on the Sunday immediately following that full moon which came after the vernal equinox. At the same time the Council decided that the vernal equinox would be March 21 in the Julian calendar (Eusebius, Vit. Const. 3.18). (Synder GF. Irish Jesus, Roman Jesus: the formation of early Irish Christianity. Trinity Press International, 2002, p. 183)
Like I waz sayin' .. its all bull$#!+ ... just made it up and added bits on as they went along.

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