Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by boxy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:28 pm

Sappho wrote:I do expect at the least, as reward for their enacting a coup, that the right wing will have that super tax removed or varied significantly.
I'm betting it will only be applied to future projects and expansions (or something similar).

The cabinet remains unchanged (other than Crean getting all of Jillard's workload)... so no rightening there.
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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by IQSRLOW » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:52 pm

I'm surprised Cuntroy is still in given how dreadfully unpopular he is

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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by HIGHERBEAM » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:27 pm

boxy wrote:Personally, I believe that as long as we're allowing regular immigration to boost our population, then we are obliged to take our own (small) share of the worlds refugees.

Still... negative population growth is the way to go!
Do you actually believe the shit you write. If they want to come here let come legitimately.Most are economic refugees who pay their way here.Once they get here they get into there own communities and dont help build australia except to suck the marrow out of our bones.
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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by boxy » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:57 pm

The point is... legitimate refugees can't stay in their own countries until the bureaucracy processes their requests. Legitimate refugees are in danger in their own countries.

And perhaps you missed me saying that I only agreed with it if we were stacking more people into Australia anyway, something I disagree with.
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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by IQSRLOW » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:15 pm

I predict that Labor will have to battle it out with the Greens to bring their primary vote into line but the effect of this coupled to their mining tax and revisiting their global warming bumpkin will make them bleed centre voters. They will basically have to fight the left rather than win the centre to bring back their core constituency

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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by Sappho » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:52 am

boxy wrote:
Sappho wrote:I do expect at the least, as reward for their enacting a coup, that the right wing will have that super tax removed or varied significantly.
I'm betting it will only be applied to future projects and expansions (or something similar).

The cabinet remains unchanged (other than Crean getting all of Jillard's workload)... so no rightening there.
Indeed.

And now a few days on, we have a varied super tax which miners can work with.

I don't mind if there are some right wing outcomes to left wing issues... It's all a balance to me. The govt is still shifting a significant increase to miner tax receipts, but it also means that the govt will have make up some kind of revenue difference from another sector of society because they will not be getting as much tax as budgeted. Who will it be that suffers? For those that don't know, the VAT when up to 20% in the UK... Will GST go up here?

I think increasing the GST is a good option. It gets the money from everyone fairly, according to their buying power.

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Re: Will Julia be forced to drag Labor to the right?

Post by Sappho » Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:00 pm

boxy wrote:The point is... legitimate refugees can't stay in their own countries until the bureaucracy processes their requests. Legitimate refugees are in danger in their own countries.

And perhaps you missed me saying that I only agreed with it if we were stacking more people into Australia anyway, something I disagree with.
If other first world nations can show charity by resettling people besieged by war, then so can we. It is good to be good. This shouldn't have an impact on actively pursuing negative growth populations. Our intake is too low. Policies pertaining to Refugee and Humanitarianism has nothing to do with reducing immigration. We are allowed to refuse economic refugees. We need only ever take genuine refugees and still refuse most other types of immigration.

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