The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

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The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by Juliar » Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:53 am

There is open dizzy rebellion amongst the Labor union brown nosers who have finally very slowly realized the Union and Greeny and Chinese controlled Labor Party will be in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years at least.

Vic Labor is assisting with this with their Branch Stackathons.




Ed Husic ‘mea culpa’: Labor needs to ‘shake things up’ to avoid more election losses
Josh Butler 6:00am, Aug 25, 2020 Updated: 36m ago

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Ed Husic says Labor needs to "shake things up" in new election strategy. Photo: TND

Labor MP Ed Husic has called for the dizzying array of policies his party took to the past two elections to be vastly simplified, saying the kind of complicated tax changes the ALP had previously run on can only be argued from government.

Admitting to a ‘‘backflip’’ of his own – coming after what he said was a period of reflection after stepping down to the backbench last year – Mr Husic said Labor had to ‘‘shake things up’’ to avoid another term in opposition.

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Mr Husic says Labor needs to think hard about its future. Photo: AAP

‘‘We’ve gone to two elections with lots of big, bold policies, probably too many to count,’’ the Member for Chifley told The New Daily.

“We can safely say we’ve tried the experiment, and we’re now in totally different waters with the pandemic.

“We can’t afford to be the generation of Labor politicians that couldn’t get it together to win government.”

Chalking up 10 years in Parliament this week, Mr Husic said he has changed his tune on a number of Labor’s recent stances.

Not the policies themselves – negative gearing reform, winding back franking credits – but on how the arguments are prosecuted.

Immediately following the surprise May 2019 election loss, Mr Husic said he still thought the strategy of Labor’s ‘‘100 positive policies’’ was solid.

Now, after spending that intervening period on the backbench (he gave up his spot in Labor’s shadow ministry to make room for Kristina Keneally), he has a different view.

‘‘Check the times we’ve gone from opposition to government. There’s been three pre-conditions to win – a popular leader, a core set of policies we can count on one hand, and a climate that was right for what we were arguing for,’’ Mr Husic said.

‘‘We need to be mindful of that going into the next election, because we probably won’t be able to fund a broad policy agenda, given the way the pandemic has ravaged the economy.”

Mr Husic still wants to see action on franking credits and negative gearing, which he said were ‘‘draining the economy’’, but said Labor might not win an election campaigning on those.

‘‘We tried ‘100 positive policies’, and we get mired in explaining these things when people are focused on the big picture – their health, their jobs,’’ he said.

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Mr Husic said Labor became mired in the 100 positive policies plan under Bill Shorten. Photo: AAP

‘‘On things like franking credits, there’s a lot we can do, but we can’t make it the centrepiece of the campaign strategy.

‘‘You’ve got to be respectful of people and work through it, and the best place to do that is government.’’

He admitted his comments were ‘‘a bit of a backflip’’, in what he called a ‘‘mea culpa’’ following the election loss.

‘‘Pre-pandemic, I didn’t think we should walk away from those policies … but the environment we’re in now, plus learning from history about arguing big tax changes from opposition, we have to think hard about what we focus on,’’ Mr Husic said.

‘‘You’ve got to fight for the things you believe in. But in a crowded space, there’s only so many things you can fight for.’’

Talk of a ‘popular leader’ comes at a time of lagging opinion poll results for Anthony Albanese, and questioning of the party’s direction from the likes of shadow minister Joel Fitzgibbon.

Mr Husic praised the work of both men, but said the pandemic should give Labor pause to think hard about its future.

‘‘The danger for our side is we think we can elbow a vending machine and a Bob Hawke pops out. We think someone with messiah-like ability will just come along,’’ he said.

‘‘Leaders need to work on it. Anthony has been leader only a short amount of time. It took Kevin Rudd a while to build that popularity. It’s a work in progress, but having said that, we need to be mindful of those pre-conditions I outline.’’


Joel Fitzgibbon has privately urged the ALP to stop pretending it's a "government-in-exile".

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Joel Fitzgibbon claims Labor could split in two. Photo: AAP

On the claims of his ‘‘great mate’’ Mr Fitzgibbon that Labor could split in two, riven by efforts to appeal to both inner-city progressives and suburban blue-collar workers, Mr Husic was equivocal.

Read to realize how smelly the decaying Labor Party has become

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2020/08 ... on-losses/

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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by Fred » Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:05 pm

IMHO, all those sitting in those cosy jobs in Canberra are tarred with same brush. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that ALP and Greens are only worse because they appear clearly to believe they immune to detection, which clearly they aren’t.

Perhaps, the Coalition is finally standing up to prevent foreign ownership. Selling Australia to the world, literally, only stands to enslave the people of Australia to foreign overlords. It is time to stop hiding their head in the sand and standing for Australian interest.

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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by billy the kid » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:01 am

Fred wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:05 pm
IMHO, all those sitting in those cosy jobs in Canberra are tarred with same brush. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that ALP and Greens are only worse because they appear clearly to believe they immune to detection, which clearly they aren’t.

Perhaps, the Coalition is finally standing up to prevent foreign ownership. Selling Australia to the world, literally, only stands to enslave the people of Australia to foreign overlords. It is time to stop hiding their head in the sand and standing for Australian interest.
Perhaps the Australian Government could have done something about foreign ownership decades ago.
Morrison is only grandstanding at this point in time to divert the attention away from his grubberments
failures in the aged care facilities etc...His grandstanding is simply tilting swords at China after his grubberment
supported the US call for an inquiry into the origin of the conjob19 virus.
He is also creating diversions by blaming Andrews now for the fiasco in Melbourne.
Typical gutter politics.....
Morrison is a grub...they all are...
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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by Black Orchid » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:22 am

Hawke/Keating initiated privatisation in the earl 1990s. Howard continued it. A quick grab for money without forethought and a bad decision.

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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by billy the kid » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:31 am

Black Orchid wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:22 am
Hawke/Keating initiated privatisation in the earl 1990s. Howard continued it. A quick grab for money without forethought and a bad decision.
I think Ill read my book today..."All The Presidents Bankers", by Nomi Prins...
Im sure it will increase my disgust and disdain etc...
Have a great sunday....
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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by Fred » Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:36 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:01 am
Fred wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:05 pm
IMHO, all those sitting in those cosy jobs in Canberra are tarred with same brush. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that ALP and Greens are only worse because they appear clearly to believe they immune to detection, which clearly they aren’t.

Perhaps, the Coalition is finally standing up to prevent foreign ownership. Selling Australia to the world, literally, only stands to enslave the people of Australia to foreign overlords. It is time to stop hiding their head in the sand and standing for Australian interest.
Perhaps the Australian Government could have done something about foreign ownership decades ago.
Morrison is only grandstanding at this point in time to divert the attention away from his grubberments
failures in the aged care facilities etc...His grandstanding is simply tilting swords at China after his grubberment
supported the US call for an inquiry into the origin of the conjob19 virus.
He is also creating diversions by blaming Andrews now for the fiasco in Melbourne.
Typical gutter politics.....
Morrison is a grub...they all are...
I agree, this does appear to be smoke and mirrors. I hope, however, that this trend continues. selling the country to the rest of the world only seems to bring more foreign influence to the government of the nation. Influence ,which of course, is more self-interested than for the nation. Using financial interest to buy the elected politicians in such ways as paying their bills, financing their holidays and well let’s face it, buying their votes and opinions.

We have seen, ALP, Greens and Coalition politicians accepting funds for personal gain walk away without scrutiny after being caught red handed with their snouts in the trough and they wonder why we don't trust them.

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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by Neferti » Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:11 pm

The Greens and the ALP should join and become GALP. :mrgreen:

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Re: The decline and fall of the Union + Greenies + Chinese controlled Labor Party

Post by Juliar » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:21 pm

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They say a fish rots from the head down.


Membership-rigging exposes Australian Labor Party’s rot.
By Mike Head 18 June 2020

Revelations this week of “industrial-scale” branch stacking inside the Australian Labor Party (ALP) have shone a light on the advanced decay of this party, which has been the central political instrument of the ruling establishment for over a century.

A near year-long investigation by the Nine Entertainment’s TV and newspaper outlets, involving secret cameras and recordings, exposed a key ALP powerbroker in the state of Victoria, Adem Somyurek, and his staff members enrolling and paying for bulk party memberships.

The recordings show Somyurek ordering others to forge signatures and create false statements claiming that people paid for their own memberships. Reportedly, up to 4,000 of the ALP’s claimed 16,000 members in the state of Victoria have been registered this way.

Moreover, “everyone” in the ALP leadership knew that this was going on, despite the feigned shock of Victorian state Premier Daniel Andrews and federal Labor leader Anthony Albanese.

Nor was this simply a Victorian state issue. On the basis of his known membership-rigging, Somyurek had risen to become a member of the ALP’s highest body, its 21-person national executive.

In damage control, Andrews quickly sacked Somyurek as a state government cabinet minister. Two other ministers closely associated with Somyurek resigned in rapid fashion. Somyurek was even expelled from the ALP. However, all three remain in parliament.

In an attempt to stem the resulting fallout, the ALP national executive convened an emergency meeting on Tuesday to take control of the entire Victorian branch for three years, and halted the voting rights of all members, including for the pre-selections of all Victoria’s federal and state members of parliament.

Massive falsification and inflation of party membership numbers is hardly new in the ALP, however. Nearly 20 years ago, a report by former Labor Prime Minister Bob Hawke and ex-New South Wales (NSW) Premier Neville Wran described it as a “cancer” eating away at the party.

In NSW, the most populous state, the ALP has become synonymous with control by trade union-backed powerbrokers like Eddie Obeid, who was later jailed for misusing his ministerial power for financial gain.

Yet the branch stacking has only gotten worse, assisted by the fact that the ALP’s actual membership has continued to collapse. Nationally, it has less than 50,000 members, even counting those fraudulently enlisted by Somyurek and his ilk, who control party branches in every state and territory.

Moreover, the party suffered a historic debacle at last year’s federal election, showing the further disintegration of its electoral base. Its vote fell to a near-century low of around 33 percent, allowing the discredited Liberal-National government to cling to office despite losing votes itself.

The resulting shockwaves and factional brawling within the discredited Labor and union bureaucracy may have sparked Nine Entertainment’s spying and entrapment operation, which reportedly began soon after the election.

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The ALP national conference in 2018 (Credit: WSWS)

For decades, the ALP has been a rotted-out shell, with virtually no real working class members, just apparatchiks, parliamentarians, staffers, union officials and careerists. Local branch stacking has long been the means by which factional powerbrokers and allied trade union bureaucrats have controlled pre-selections for parliamentary seats and access to key staff jobs and other lucrative posts.

Similar methods are used to inflate union memberships, which also have shrunk, in order to give union leaders faction-aligned voting blocs at ALP conferences.

Nevertheless, the sheer size of the latest activities points to an even deeper crisis. Somyurek claimed to control two-thirds of the Victorian ALP through fake and real members, whom he shuffled around party branches as needed to secure votes, party posts and pre-selections.

Somyurek specialised in stacking branches with people recruited by ethnic business and community figures. In the taped conversations he directed his operatives, using vulgar and disparaging language, to “put in” bulk numbers of “Indians” and “Somalis” to stack branches controlled by “Anglo” members. “We can put 1000 [Indians] in, they’re all fully f---ing resourced,” he said in one recording.

Read on to smell just how rotten the Labor Party has become.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/0 ... o-j18.html

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