Isn't Paul Keating a Republican supporter ?
The Republic: they will keep trying!
16.07.19.
If there a single thing to learned from the anti-Monarchists reaction to the so-called ‘Palace Papers’ is that hate is the trademark of the Left and if they don’t get their way entirely their behaviour turns to that of a spoiled brat throwing its toys against the wall hoping to break both toys and wall—they have a deep-seated hate and that is the lesson.
For such people like Turnbull and FitzSimons they have fantasies of grandeur—to be big fish in a small pond! To afford them their selfish ways would be utter madness. But, they will keep trying—as the rabid left does! This tantrum is good in that it exposes what life would be like under such thrill seekers.
The sad decline of the Australian Republican Movement has been on display over the past two days in its angry, confused and convoluted attacks on the Queen and Buckingham Palace, accusing the crown of deception and complicity in Gough Whitlam’s dismissal.
As the Republican Movement goes on the offensive against the Queen, it seems to have lost any understanding of how and why it was defeated in the 1999 referendum to make Australia a republic.
Whitlam Dismissal: Anti-monarchists have now royally lost the plot
Source: Paul Kelly, News Corp
Stirring up hostility towards the crown is the deepest and oldest republican sentiment. It has never worked in the past and never will in the future.
The ARM by seizing upon the release of the Buckingham Palace and John Kerr correspondence has fallen into a familiar and disastrous trap.
There are three problems. Its attack on the Queen and the palace for dishonesty and complicity in Whitlam’s dismissal is false on the historical facts.
This argument will alienate many Republican sympathisers appalled that populist misrepresentation is now a standard method for the republican cause. And finally, the argument won’t get traction with mainstream voters.
Doesn’t the ARM grasp that after 68 years on the throne, the Queen is respected for her diligence and integrity? Who are the tactical geniuses who think unwarranted abuse of the Queen and the palace actually helps the republican cause?
For the record, ARM national director Sandy Biar said the movement was calling out the palace’s “arrogant attempt at misleading Australians” about its involvement in Gough Whitlam’s sacking.
Biar makes a series of unsubstantiated claims — that the palace was forewarned and “provided advice” on how the reserve powers might be exercised, when the palace actually urged caution on Kerr — and then makes the ludicrous claim that “without the explicit assurances” of the palace, Kerr might not have sacked Whitlam.
This is worse than cheapjack populism. It signals the ARM will engage in misrepresentation in an effort to fool and mislead. Obviously, it won’t work. How on earth did the ARM get derailed on such a futile track?
The case for the republic stands in its own right. It doesn’t need dishonest campaigns against the Queen about events that occurred 45 years ago. That might make republicans feel good but it doesn’t help their cause.
Republicans outnumber monarchists in Australia and have for some time. But support is shallow and without agreement on the pivotal question: what type of republic?
The big lesson from the 1999 loss is that the fundamental issue is no longer the Queen. Someone should tell the ARM.
https://morningmail.org/the-republic-th ... ore-118841
Some real good COMMENTS
Lorraine 16/07/2020, 8:19 am
The Palace Papers has proved that the Australian Constitution is in a strong place. The GG has the powers and Sir John Kerr used those powers and outsmarted Whitlam who would have gone to the Queen and had him sacked, but the Labor PM under estimated Sir John Kerr. Australians are very lucky to have had a GG the likes of Sir John Kerr the last Labor man that cared for Australia…. All of Labor could learn this lesson, this day
luk1955 16/07/2020, 8:23 am
The main reason for removing the Queen is to remove the Australian Constitution and replace it with a dictatorial tyranny similar to what the Russians had for decades, and what china now has, courtesy of the Mao god. But with what we are living with in Victoriastan, courtesy of commiedan and the commie labor party, the Russian people were in a much better position. At least they did not have to wear masks and be subject to acquiring supergerms as the result of constantly washing hands with alcohol and rebreathing their own CO2.
ibbit 16/07/2020, 8:36 am
I was listening to and watching some of the leftie lovies hissing and screeching about the Pallace papers and thought what a poor show Australia is today.
We have a Constitution, a good one by and large, but one that needs modernisng, but we are so afraid of the leftie screamers that we do not have a debate about what needs to be done. What needs to be done should not be sidelined by the screamers who want a republic.
Eliza 16/07/2020, 10:15 am
Lefties/socialists/marksits, cannot and never have accepted any umpires decision when it has gone against them, be it these Palace Papers, Trumps win in 2016 Brexit etc.
DT 16/07/2020, 12:09 pm
The Australian Constitution and Australia is a sovereign nation, the last court of appeal is The High Court of Australia, the permanent Head of State is a Governor General appointed by the elected Commonwealth of Australia Federal Parliament.
During the 1930s the UK Parliament passed an Act of Parliament removing the powers of a Monarch including in Commonwealth nations. During the 1980s the Australia Act of Parliament (Hawke Labor Government) reinforced the UK Act.
Australia is not ruled by the Queen, she has a ceremonial role and is only Queen of Australia when she is visiting.
The Sir John Kerr letters have confirmed what he always maintained and astute observers accepted that he alone made the decision involving the Whitlam Labor Government forcing a new election at which the voters dismissed Whitlam Labor in a landslide defeat.
That decision was in accordance with The Australian Constitution.
How Whitlam was booted out
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Re: How Whitlam was booted out
The day Australia cheered and breathed a sigh of relief.
Dismissal Speech on the steps of Parliament House
Whitlam, Gough
Period of Service: 05/12/1972 to 11/11/1975
Release Date: 11/11/1975
Release Type: Statement
Transcript ID:
Ladies and gentleman , well may we say God Save the Queen because nothing will save the Governor-General.
The proclamation which you have just heard read by the Governor-General’s official secretary was countersigned ‘Malcolm Fraser’ who will undoubtedly go down in Australian history from Remembrance Day 1975 as Kerr’s cur.
They won’t silence the outskirts of Parliament House, even if the inside has been silenced for the next few weeks .
The Governor-General’s proclamation was signed after he already made an appointment to meet the Speaker at a quarter to five.
The House of Representatives had requested the Speaker to give the Governor-General its decision that Mr Fraser did not have the confidence of the House and that the Governor-General should call me to form the Government. . . .
Maintain your rage and enthusiasm through the campaign for the election now to be held and until polling day.
https://pmtranscripts.pmc.gov.au/release/transcript
Dismissal Speech on the steps of Parliament House
Whitlam, Gough
Period of Service: 05/12/1972 to 11/11/1975
Release Date: 11/11/1975
Release Type: Statement
Transcript ID:
Ladies and gentleman , well may we say God Save the Queen because nothing will save the Governor-General.
The proclamation which you have just heard read by the Governor-General’s official secretary was countersigned ‘Malcolm Fraser’ who will undoubtedly go down in Australian history from Remembrance Day 1975 as Kerr’s cur.
They won’t silence the outskirts of Parliament House, even if the inside has been silenced for the next few weeks .
The Governor-General’s proclamation was signed after he already made an appointment to meet the Speaker at a quarter to five.
The House of Representatives had requested the Speaker to give the Governor-General its decision that Mr Fraser did not have the confidence of the House and that the Governor-General should call me to form the Government. . . .
Maintain your rage and enthusiasm through the campaign for the election now to be held and until polling day.
https://pmtranscripts.pmc.gov.au/release/transcript
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Re: How Whitlam was booted out
I didn't mind Gough but I was young and not at all political when it went down. Cannot stand Keating and I can't stand that upstart Fraser either.
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