SA & Tassie elections

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Machiavella

Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by Machiavella » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:47 am

boxy wrote:The Greens are a bit like the Democrats, they're there to keep the bastards honest. Once they start to be seen to be in bed with the bastards (just a few more elections now), they'll fade as well.

"Wahre Demokratie ist nur von unten her bequem". (Forget who coined this witty truism which goes something like: true democracy is comfy only from the bottom up, but it loses in translation).

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Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by Hebe » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:14 pm

boxy wrote:The Greens are a bit like the Democrats, they're there to keep the bastards honest. Once they start to be seen to be in bed with the bastards (just a few more elections now), they'll fade as well.
THE Tasmanian Greens have rejected a historic offer to join a Labor Cabinet, opening the door for the Liberals.
HOPES are growing within the Liberal Opposition that all chance of seizing government from the incumbent minority state Labor Government may not have disappeared.

The renewed optimism from within Liberal ranks follows the decision by Greens leader Nick McKim yesterday to reject the unprecedented offer from Premier David Bartlett to join his new Cabinet.
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/20 ... -news.html


But will Abetz allow Hodgman to negotiate with the Greens? My guess is no.
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Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by TomB » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:58 pm

Shouldn't the Governor be shaking them by the scruff and telling them to form govt or GTFO?
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Machiavella

Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by Machiavella » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:49 pm

TomB wrote:Shouldn't the Governor be shaking them by the scruff and telling them to form govt or GTFO?
Government is not about governing, it's about elections, dontcha know!

Hebe:

as a fully signed up member of the Greens, what do you think of this "Thanks but no thanks" of your leader?

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Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by Hebe » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:46 am

I agree with him. Labor imposed some stringent conditions on his becoming a Cabinet member, which could have potentially have compromised his position as a Green, and caused a rift with his fellow Green MPs. I suspect it was a ploy by Bartlett to set them up to fail, so that when it did, everyone would blame the Greens and vote against them at the election I suspect we're about to have - again.

If you want information about the old Labor-Green accord, and why IT failed (which Labor have always blamed on the Greens), there is an insight here about what Labor did to make it fail, deliberately.

http://tasmaniantimes.com/index.php?/we ... w_comments
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Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by J.W. Frogen » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:22 am

Machiavella wrote:
Government is not about governing, it's about elections, dontcha know!
And to get elected you must listen to "the people".

As Mayor Diamond Joe Quimby once opined "are these morons getting dumber or just louder?"

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Re: SA & Tassie elections

Post by Hebe » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:34 pm

Oh, Bartlett listens. He just doesn't do anything about what he hears.
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