Gaming the System

[Outlaw Yogi]

In recent years, post election results there's been a fair bit of complaint about independent and fruit bat parties' candidates being elected to the Senate with less votes than most of us have boots and socks and the unworkability of such a scenario.

Mid last month The weekend Australian Magazine (where the Oz sticks its left wing moon bats) ran an article about Glenn Druery in the March 16-17 2019 issue titled GAME CHANGER. Druery takes credit for 11 of the cross benchers in the senate.

As he says the major parties who complain about him have been gaming the system themselves since virtually forever, and he's just doing what they do for the minor parties.

I'll forgive his advisory occupation on Derryn Hinch's staff because I'd like to thank him for gaming the system and wish him future success until the absurd regime that allows this mess - Preferential voting - is abolished.

Meanwhile the AEC has been harassing me by sending correspondence to my snail mail letterbox, my email account and my mob/cell phone, telling me I am "required to enrol to vote".
Via which govt agency (local Council?) they acquired all my contact details I don't know, but if I enrol and then don't vote they can and will fine me for failure to vote, so they can get copulated.

I have no intention of voting until Preferential Voting is abolished, because until it is I would have no idea of who actually winds up with my vote.

[Black Orchid]

There should be a law which requires all parties to publicise their preferences before an election. As it is we have to hunt for it and, maybe it's just me, but I find it almost impossible to find where all of those preferences go and in what order they are listed.

[brian ross]

Preferential voting produces one of the most fair results out of all the voting systems. It ensures that the person who receives the greatest number of votes wins. First-past-the-post system is simplistic and can result in the most unpopular person winning if there are more than three candidates.

[Serial Brain 9]

Preferential voting produces one of the most fair results out of all the voting systems. It ensures that the person who receives the greatest number of votes wins. First-past-the-post system is simplistic and can result in the most unpopular person winning if there are more than three candidates.

First Passed the Post ?

do you mean the Person how got the most Primary Votes?

[brian ross]

Preferential voting produces one of the most fair results out of all the voting systems. It ensures that the person who receives the greatest number of votes wins. First-past-the-post system is simplistic and can result in the most unpopular person winning if there are more than three candidates.

First Passed the Post ?

do you mean the Person how got the most Primary Votes?

I mean that the first-past-the-post wins the election. The problem is that FPSTP creates an uneven spread of votes if there are more than three candidates in a seat. The end result is that the most disliked, the least respected, can win that electorate over the more popular candidates who have split the vote between them. This is basic voting theory. Preferences ensure that the candidate who wins, represents the absolute majority of the voters' views in that seat. If you eliminate preferences as the preferred voting system, it makes things a great deal more complicated for the voters who did not vote for the candidate that may win the seat.