ASIO's non existent terror watch list

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ASIO's non existent terror watch list

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Years before the rampage down Bourke St, authorities revoked Hassan Khalif Shire Ali’s passport. It’s a decision that may have proved fatal.

Three years before Hassan Khalif Shire Ali drove a burning ute into the city and launched a knife attack last Friday, he had his passport cancelled.

He had his passport revoked in 2015 over fears he was trying to travel to Syria to fight for Islamic State.

But rather than joining the terror group overseas, Ali would instead inflict his carnage on home soil, with Melbourne cafe owner Sisto Malaspina killed during his rampage on Bourke St.

Questions have now been raised about how someone who was stopped from fighting overseas was then able to conduct a terror attack in Australia.

About 240 Australians have had their passports cancelled on the advice of ASIO to the foreign minister.

According to Lowy Institue research fellow and counter terrorism specialist Lydia Khalil, it’s a controversial decision to make a suspected terrorist on a mission stay where they don’t want to be.

Ms Khalil told news.com.au that “in a lot of cases (suspected terrorists who have their passports cancelled) will shift the target so instead of fighting overseas as they desire they will do it domestically”.

“It’s not always the case as it really depends on the individual and whether or not they believe it’s legitimate to do in Australia what they were planning on carrying out in battle zones in Iraq or Syria,” she said.

“For a lot of individuals those things are quite distinct and so they might go off to a battle zone but wouldn’t commit a terror attack.

“Others don’t see a distinction between a battle field and their home countries and consider both theatres legitimate.”

According to Ms Khalil, Islamic State has tried to “erase that distinction” over the past few years to encourage supporters to commit attacks in their home countries.

“Islamic State has been saying to their supporters that they’re doing a service to the growth of the caliphate and attacking the enemy wherever they may be,” she said.

Islamic State (IS) said via its propaganda arm that Ali was an “Islamic State fighter and carried out the operation”, but provided no evidence to back its claim.

“In relation to his connections with ISIL (another name for IS) or with any terrorist group … there’s not, as I’m advised, a membership of an organisation or a definite link to ISIL,” Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton told reporters in Brisbane.

“The working theory is at the moment a case where this person has been downloading information or receiving messages in his own mind about what he should be doing. It’s inspired as opposed to affiliation or membership.”

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Australia doesn’t have an official “terror watch list” despite reports the Melbourne terrorist who killed a man in a stabbing frenzy on Friday had once been on it.

The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation’s (ASIO) “terror watch list” has been referred to on many occasions by authorities, including former prime minister Tony Abbott, who once said Lindt Cafe siege terrorist Man Monis had “dropped off” it. But according to ASIO, it doesn’t even exist.

“ASIO does not maintain a ‘terror watch list’,” a statement from the organisation to news.com.au read.

Anyone deemed to be a risk to national security can be investigated by ASIO or the Joint Counter Terrorism Team, which the agency is part of along with state and Federal Police (AFP).

Instead of monitoring all persons thought to be capable of carrying out an attack, ASIO cherrypicks who to watch closely based on “a range of prioritisation systems and review mechanisms”.

The domestic intelligence agency reportedly operates on a “grid” framework which categorises the level of surveillance and investigation it applies to any of the hundreds of Islamic radicals who at any one time are of security interest to the agency, The Australian reports.

According to the newspaper, the grid is organised into ­concentric circles, with subjects moving from the centre, where scrutiny is at its most intense, ­towards the periphery, where the level of surveillance is gradually scaled down.


ASIO has more than 400 “high-priority” counter-terrorism investigations on its radar, according to the agency.

News.com.au understands that the people included in the tally have met the threat threshold that allows ASIO or other counter-terror operatives, including the AFP, to apply for warrants to put them under surveillance. But it doesn’t mean they are all actively monitored.


That reportedly only happens when the agency is satisfied on reasonable legislative grounds that the person in question is directly or indirectly engaged in preparing, planning, assisting, fostering or advocating a terrorist act. State and federal police also monitor potential terror threats individually and share intelligence with each other and ASIO.
https://www.news.com.au/national/austra ... 436e694b49

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Re: ASIO's non existent terror watch list

Post by Neferti » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:16 pm

ASIO, obviously, don't have the "funds" to track every odd bod who "might' do something. I read somewhere that they don't have a "list" (they would say that). Also that the potential offenders have an Apps with "crypt" or something so that ASIO cannot track them. Intelligence. Whatever.

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