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AiA in Atlanta
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Sell everything!

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:18 am

Me. I am holding.

Sell everything ahead of stock market crash, say RBS economists

http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... economists

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Post by mantra » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:07 am

That's an effective way to ensure that the market crashes. You would think these economists would be a little more cautious before they start yelling "fire".

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Post by Outlaw Yogi » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:57 am

So now even supposed experts in the financial industries, who to a large extent depend on the gambling bourses called stock markets are declaring exactly what I've been saying for about 3 years now - that the corporate world will soon crash.

Not all of my predictions come to fruition, for example Clive Palmer didn't go to gaol/jail in 2015.
But many of my predictions to materialise. Examples: In 2005 I said Kevin Rudd would be the next PM,
and after the 2008 GFC I said there would be a big war coming soon. Spoze personal perception on 'big'
defines whether Islamic State causing chaos in the Mid East and North Africa confirms that one.

Anyway, for about 3 years now I've been saying the corporate world, that is the world of public companies
and the stock markets that gamble on them will have a huge crash in the near future.
I make no claims to being psychic or some messiah of doomsday prophecy, I just read the signs.

To me the 2008 GFC didn't look accidental, it appeared orchestrated, for a purpose.
To syphon off most of the capital at minor share holders' and taxpayers' expense (Note failed CEOs got big bonuses)
and to incite a big war, to create a need to boost manufacturing economies.

For years now I've been seeing incompetent feminazis bemouning a pay gender equity gap, while deliberately ignoring that
women on the whole are avoiding on the jobs that attract premium remuneration or refusing over-time.
It seems they think women in safe jobs should be paid the same as men in risky/dangerous jobs, and/or be paid for over-time not done.

In time those arguments fell flat, so they complained that not enough women were being appointed CEOs of major companies.
Eventually corp[orate sychophants took up the feminazi cause and have been campaigning to "promote women" soley because they're women
not because they're competent or good at what they do.
In recent times women have been appointed CEO of large public companies, and while the hype is all positive, the genuine results don't
support the claims. Spotless (construction) appointed a woman as CEO and it crashed. Yahoo appointed a woman as CEO and has gone down the tube.

The problem with the corporate regime is it is dependent of continual expansion, which is impossible in a finite world, so at some time must crash.
Which are refered to as "corrections". Those who've done well from the corporate world are pulling out and investing in private equity, and private equity is dumping it's unwanted assets on to the stock market, which are noticeable failures for investors. So I think the real; reason the corporate barons have taken up the "Promte Women" agenda
is to #1 hasten the crash via inexperience/incompetence and #2 let them be the fall guys, or fall girls if you prefer.

If I had money to play with, it would go into precious metals or Proprietary Limited (Pty Ltd) companies.
NOTE: gold is hovering around AUS$1400 (US$1100) per ounce but platinum is only US$880 per ounce.
So platinum is the better option, but gold will increase if/when the successor to Islamic State kicks off the next round of global jihadism.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Post by AiA in Atlanta » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:22 am

The low price of oil will certainly shake up the world order if it keeps up. Some countries get most of their revenue from the sale of oil. What will they do when they can't meet expenses?

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Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:43 pm

mantra wrote:That's an effective way to ensure that the market crashes. You would think these economists would be a little more cautious before they start yelling "fire".
Maybe they want a fire or fire sale.

Short answer, they're probably involved in 'shorts' or 'futures' trading.

Long answer. A shorts trader gambles on shares in particular companies dropping in price. And a futures trader gambles on the price of commodities increasing.

Shorts traders borrow shares off others (eg Superannuation funds) and sell them, hoping that the share price will then drop, then buy back the shares at a reduced price, thus getting more for less, giving the borrowed shares back with interest, and selling the remainder they got for nothing when the price comes back up.

Futures traders buy commodities at a fixed price, hoping the price will increase, thus getting theirs cheaper. These commodities can be anything from crude oil and minerals to orange juice, chicken wings and soy beans.
Supermarket chains have been playing a version of this for years. They'll do a deal with a producer/farmer to buy their produce for a fixed price so they don't have to bid auction style at markets. If they price of that commodity drops they lose and the farmer gains, if the price increases, the supermarket gains and the farmer misses out on the premium price.

Are these practices a form of market manipulation? - Yes

Can these practices backfire on those doing it? - Yes

Can doom & gloom speculation by RBS ( and the like) backfire on such institutions? - In credibility terms, Yes.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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Post by Outlaw Yogi » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:46 pm

AiA in Atlanta wrote:The low price of oil will certainly shake up the world order if it keeps up. Some countries get most of their revenue from the sale of oil. What will they do when they can't meet expenses?
Go to war, like we've always done.

In modern history most wars are a result of trade imbalances.
If Donald Trump is so close to the Ruskis, why couldn't he get Vladimir Putin to put novichok in Xi Jjinping's lipstick?

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