Palaszczuk takes her own govt to the brink

[boxy]

A gutsy call, that needed to happen, after one of her ALP MPs was found to have made false declarations about a criminal record. Can't see anything but a Labor win in a by-election, if it happens anytime soon. A loss there could see a change in government.

[mantra]

You would think our politicians would be subject to police checks before they became candidates. She really had no other choice - better to come clean now rather than later.

[IQS.RLOW]

Gutsy call?

Since when does preselection fuck up = gutsy call?

Sounds more like typical ALP candidate gets caught while the rest get away with whatever they're hiding.

[Outlaw Yogi]

You would think our politicians would be subject to police checks before they became candidates. She really had no other choice - better to come clean now rather than later.

All political candidates from all parties are supposed to be subject to police criminal history and financial solvency checks. And it is the party the candidate stands for that is supposed to do such checks.
A criminal record does not disqualify someone for running or holding a seat in Australian parliaments. Being bankrupt does disqualify someone from running, holding or retaining a parliamentary seat.

In the mid 2000s when I was in the Greens we had an ALP plant in our branch who ran as our state candidate and deliberately sabotaged his own campaign (in a number of ways).
When he decided he was going to run in the following fed election I sought to prevent it, by making sure the relevant checks were done, unlike his prior running.
He owed half the members in our branch money so I figured there's a good chance he was a bankrupt. When I sought his permission at a Candidate review panel meeting to do criminal history and financial solvency checks he spat the dummy, growling how dare I challenge his integrity. When I got onto the party's state management committee, they were happy to let him run regardless and said "Oh well, maybe next time".

When word got back to him that I intended to quiz him in front of the candidate review panel about his involvement with DIO [Defense Intelligence Organisation] he dropped out of the race.

As for Labor's potential to lose the by election, well it'd suit me.
Read in the Australian Palaszczuk has a heap of new legislation she wants implemented, and one of them was 'Animal control' [no details]. Which means they [Labor] intend to outlaw pig dogging. Hardly surprising, when I got into a debate with the admin/owner of the Vegetarian Society of Qld website in 2002 over their promotion of soy products as healthy [soy products are toxic] I noticed the site address ended with .gov.qld
And no one bitches more about pig dogging than veg nazis.

Anyway this is what yahoo's version ...

Qld premier wants by-election in Cook
https://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/2686221 ... s-to-quit/

Queensland's premier wants a by-election in outcast MP Billy Gordon's seat but won't rule out accepting his vote if he stays on as an independent.


The pressure on the Cook MP to resign from the Labor party on Monday has plunged Annastacia Palaszczuk's government into crisis two months after it seized power from the LNP.


Ms Palaszczuk is demanding Mr Gordon quit parliament entirely, after he failed last Tuesday to tell her about his criminal history, including break-and-enter and stealing offences dating back 25 years.


She wants a by-election in the far north Queensland MP's seat, which Labor will have to win to hold on to power.


"My preference is to have a by-election," she said.


"I'm prepared to put my premiership on the line, I'm prepared to put the integrity of my government on the line because we stood up for what was right.


"We talk about a different way of government and I believe the government I lead is completely different to the one that was lead by Campbell Newman and the LNP."


But the premier refused to reject the MP's vote in parliament, like the opposition has, claiming she was giving him time to resign from his seat before parliament next sits in May.


"I don't think we should raise hypotheticals at this moment," Ms Palaszczuk said.


"I believe he should be given time to consider his position in a detailed manner.


"I hope he will do the right thing and resign and I want to give him that opportunity to do so."


Ms Palaszczuk defended the timing of her response to the domestic abuse allegations which Mr Gordon's partner first emailed to the premier's department on March 13.


She said her chief of staff had only raised the email with her on March 19 because it was effectively lost in the deluge of daily emails until then.


"There are hundreds of letters that come into the premier's department, hundreds," she said.


Former Premier Peter Beattie has praised Ms Palaszczuk for moving to sack Mr Gordon from the Labor Party, while also calling for the Cook MP to resign.


If Labor lost a by-election to the LNP in Cook it could lose its grip on power because both parties will have 43 seats.


However, the Katter's Australia Party's two MPs - who were meeting with Ms Palaszczuk and Treasurer Curtis Pitt on Monday - have said they could support Labor if it meets their demands for rural and regional Queensland.


Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg said the premier had to publicly release all information about how she had dealt with the situation.


"The premier should release the email trail of where the premier did urge the lady (Mr Gordon's ex-partner) to go to the police," he said.


"She said (in parliament) it was all dealt with on Friday, and it wasn't."


Mr Springborg also promised not to accept Mr Gordon's vote if he remained in parliament as an independent and called on the premier to do the same.


"You cannot on one hand say he is unfit to be in parliament and yet say you are looking at the possibility of accepting his vote if he remains the Member for Cook," he added.

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As for Labor's potential to lose the by election, well it'd suit me.
Read in the Australian Palaszczuk has a heap of new legislation she wants implemented, and one of them was 'Animal control' [no details]. Which means they [Labor] intend to outlaw pig dogging. Hardly surprising, when I got into a debate with the admin/owner of the Vegetarian Society of Qld website in 2002 over their promotion of soy products as healthy [soy products are toxic] I noticed the site address ended with .gov.qld
And no one bitches more about pig dogging than veg nazis.

It's a bloodthirsty way to trap an animal from a humane point of view.

In the mid 2000s when I was in the Greens we had an ALP plant in our branch who ran as our state candidate and deliberately sabotaged his own campaign (in a number of ways).

When he decided he was going to run in the following fed election I sought to prevent it, by making sure the relevant checks were done, unlike his prior running.
He owed half the members in our branch money so I figured there's a good chance he was a bankrupt. When I sought his permission at a Candidate review panel meeting to do criminal history and financial solvency checks he spat the dummy, growling how dare I challenge his integrity. When I got onto the party's state management committee, they were happy to let him run regardless and said "Oh well, maybe next time".

When word got back to him that I intended to quiz him in front of the candidate review panel about his involvement with DIO [Defense Intelligence Organisation] he dropped out of the race.

Labor could have been desperate for half way decent candidates and been lax in the check ups. Sounds like Palaszczuk has taken a gamble. It might pay off if there's a by-election and a Labor candidate wins. The odds are in her favour. The Liberals would still be on the nose after Newman.

[Outlaw Yogi]

It's a bloodthirsty way to trap an animal from a humane point of view.

Welcome to planet Earth, a world where just about everything eats something else on the planet, and the most intelligent of those creatures are carnivorous, meaning they have to catch and kill their dinner.
So why is it that a lion, hyena, wolf ect chasing or ambushing its dinner, chimpanzes hunting monkeys or pigs hunting rabbits just part of nature, but a human and dog co-operating in hunting bloodthirsty?
Personally I'm sick of these neo-fabian judgementalists running their poofy social engineering schemes in order to devolve humanity into bipedal bunnies.
They should go and get their own planet and stop trying to pervert nature on this one.
Like it or not Homo sapien sapien evolved as a tactical omnivore, and these anti-hunting veg nazis are just illogical bald monkeys.

EDIT ADDITION - I actually hope [in the event of a by election] Labor loses Cook and their majority with it, because then they will be reliant on Bob Katter's support. And after Katter telling Newman's crew that the best way to deal with North Qld's feral pig population explosion is to allow a pig hunting tourist industry in Qld there's no way he's going to support the outlawing of pig dogging.

Labor could have been desperate for half way decent candidates and been lax in the check ups. Sounds like Palaszczuk has taken a gamble. It might pay off if there's a by-election and a Labor candidate wins. The odds are in her favour. The Liberals would still be on the nose after Newman.

Fact is Labor courted Billy Gordon because he's Aboriginal, and now get prissy because he behaved/s like a typical Aboriginal.
Annastacia Palaszczuk clearly has no integrity. She was made aware of these allegations weeks ago, but rather than addressing the issue she let Gordon vote for confidence in her admin before dropping her bombshell of disgust.

As for Gordon himself, I say phuk him. He's been carping on about wimmin's ishoos, wimmin's rites and slagging off women bashers and it turns out he's just like all the other would be social reformers - a fraud.

[Neferti]

Aboriginals ARE speschal. Even if they are white with blue eyes, they are still the First Aussies. There's money in it for them ....

I have a lot of respect for those people who were brought up in Aboriginal areas with a drunken father who bashed the mother, and they got out of that and re-invented themselves ... but they are few and far between.

Throwing money at Aboriginals is a waste.

We who were born in AUSTRALIA ... ARE Indigenous ... those who can trace their ancestors back to BEFORE 1788 are REAL Aboriginals.

I really think that a DNA test should be carried out before "speschal" treatment is handed out (along with extra money).

[Outlaw Yogi]

I think those refering to (the at least 3rd race to inhabit OZ) Aboriginals as the "First Australians" should be more accurate with thier descriptions.
The first known humans to have lived in OZ were a very primitive and relatively unevolved people, and their existence is only known of because of the female Lake Mungo skull.

Refering to the modern Aboriginal as the "First Australians" invites derogatory terms like "Mungo monkeys".

German geneticists have proven that the modern Aboriginal came from India between 5000 and 4000 years ago, and brought the Dingo/Indian wild dog with them. Which eradicated Tasmanian Tigers and Devils on mainland OZ.

[Rorschach]

Yep always ticks me off when they are referred to as the first Australians.
Any referendum to add them as such in the Constitution should be voted down.
I will be doing just that id Abbott tries it on.