65th anniversary today of attempt to assassinate Hitler

[Jovial Monk]

In memory of Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg and all those who gave their lives trying to kill Hitler in the July 20 bomb plot, 65 years ago today. “Und ihr habt doch gesiegt.”

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 4&t=155424

[Leftofcentresalterego]

Wasn't Dietrich Bonhoeffer charged with being party and hung?

[Jovial Monk]

Looked on the list on that Forum didn't see that name. Wiki would tell you

[boxy]

What's the go with assassinations? Aren't they illegal according to the rules of war?

[Leftofcentresalterego]

Bonhoeffer is an idol of Rudds.

He was a German priest who lived through the rise of nazism. He was a proponent of "muscular Christianity" and an outspoken critic of the nazis, which got him into trouble. Eventually, it got him dead.

First, they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out because I was not a Jew

Then they came for the communists
And I did not speak out because I was not a communist

yadda, yadda, list of various groups and types of people

And then they came for me................and now there was nobody else left to speak out

I think that is attributed to him, not 100% sure

[Jovial Monk]

This is assassination of your own leader, not the leader of a foreign country, der.

[boxy]

I'm pretty sure that assassination of an elected leader is against the law too :p

[Hebe]

After the failure of the July 20 Plot on Hitler's life in 1944 and the discovery of secret Abwehr documents relating to the conspiracy by the Gestapo in September 1944, Bonhoeffer's connections with the conspirators were discovered. He was transferred from the military prison in Berlin Tegel, where he had been held for 18 months, to the detention cellar of the house prison of the Reich Security Head Office, the Gestapo’s high security prison. In February 1945 he was secretly moved to Buchenwald concentration camp, and finally to Flossenbürg.[30]

On April 4, 1945, the diaries of Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of Abwehr, were discovered and in a rage upon reading them Hitler ordered that the Abwehr conspirators be destroyed.[31] Bonhoeffer was led away just as he concluded his final Sunday service and asked an English prisoner Payne Best to remember him to Bishop George Bell of Chichester if he should ever reach his home: "This is the end — for me the beginning of life." [32]

Wikipedia.

He was a hero. And sometimes assassination is the morally right thing to do.

[Jovial Monk]

Definitely a hero. Never heard of Flossenburgh tho--gonna Google that right now.

Awesome fucking courage!

[Jovial Monk]

Hmmm guess they had to put it in Bavaria out of reach of the advancing Russians.

In Jan 78 I travelled from Munich to visit the Dachau camp. The cabins were gone, but standing inside the wire--concrete posts & electrified barb wire--certainly gave a pretty bleak outlook.

The museum of photos etc of the medical experiments done just overwhelmed me, and I didn't know whether to be angry or glad the USAF took away the records of experiments on how long people could survive in very cold water--prisoners had to stand in freezing water for various lengths of time, with their core temperatures taken at intervals. Cold fucking blooded!

My Dad had a Jewish grandfather, just as well the Nazis didn't search that far back. However, my father practically tried to get into a concentration camp: the fuckwit, doing forced labor in Spandau near Berlin got homesick. So he just left the camp and tried to return to Holland and Mum. No money, no papers, very fucking lucky not to be thrown in a concentration camp! His commandant liked Dutch people and he was only sent to a punishment camp for a week.